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Anonymous

March 19 2009, 20:15:12 UTC 7 years ago

The NSSR does have it's advantages, but as a current student, I can say that everything said here is true.

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March 19 2009, 20:35:32 UTC 7 years ago

What are the advantages?

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Finally got my rejection today (by email at 4:50pm Eastern).
"We are in the process of making a decision on your application for admission."
What is that supposed to mean?

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March 19 2009, 21:11:15 UTC 7 years ago

I got the same thing. Is this a waitlist type situation or are they just deciding how to send the rejection?

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Anonymous

March 19 2009, 21:44:44 UTC 7 years ago

pom-pon?
Got my official funding notice from Tufts. Roughly 68% tuition waiver. Tufts is a great school with outstanding faculty, but seriously, how is their offer so financially horrible? I'm hard-pressed to imagine why students would select Tufts over, say, Wisconsin-Milwaukee when the latter covers all tuition and pays a stipend.

Anybody have any background info on this? I'm curious how Tufts can be so badly out of sync with the rest of the philosophy graduate world, especially for a school of its quality.

I'd be tempted by the offer, but the money is just awful. I will probably decline within the week.
So you got your GSAS info from Tufts? I'm still waiting on mine. I've been looking into the assistance situation in the meantime though and it is horrible! $36,600+ for two years paid up front the first year and an offer of $20,500 in loans? The loan package and tuition scholarship won't cover everything. What about rent and expenses in the Boston area?! What do they think, we're all independently wealthy? I'm most likely going to have to decline too. It's so depressing.

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Are there any Purdue admittees who will decline funding to take an offer somewhere else?
Anyone have any thoughts on the MA program at SF State, specifically on how well regarded the program is?

The presence of Bas van Fraassen and Isabelle Peschard makes it seem like a good place to study phil sci but I wonder how their faculty looks with regard to other areas of study?
They just hired two new faculty members. One from UNC specializing in Kant and modern philosophy and another from Rutgers who specializes in philosophy of mind and cognitive science. Both have already published several articles in well regarded journals.
You may have already seen Leiter's post on this, but for those that haven't: http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2009/03/financial-aid-offers-for-phd-students-is-there-a-normal-amount-these-days.html#comments

Nice to see that some people cleaned up in their applications, in any case.
Not nice to see. It makes me feel inadequate.

Rutgers

Anonymous

March 20 2009, 07:09:52 UTC 7 years ago

Anyone else still not heard from Rutgers?
I think the question is whether there is anyone who knows they have been rejected by Rutgers who didn't contact the department to ask. There was a single "rejected via website" notice on the grad cafe that might have been a mistake, along with a few email-rejection notices that either had comments implying the department had been contacted, or no comment. There was no "burst" of either kind of entry.

If you haven't heard from Rutgers, I think it's much safer to assume that you were rejected rather than you're being held on some sort of backup waiting list.

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7 years ago

I recently came across this interesting visual representation of the strengths/weaknesses of the top 50 schools (as decided by the PGR specialty rankings): http://www.kieranhealy.org/files/misc/segment-plot.pdf Nice for those of us who can't read too good.
Note: This graph was based on data from 2005, so it's not exactly up to date.

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Anonymous

7 years ago

I applied for the MS.

I was accepted by snail mail yesterday. I was offered a TAship for 5 years @ 11k per year, plus full tuition waiver and subsidized health insurance. I am guessing funding for year 3-5 is just in case I decide to stay after I complete the MS.

So, this leaves this year's results as follows:

Rejections: Yale, UNC, UMASS (assume), Wisconsin, Duke, Northwestern
Waitlist: Indiana, Wash U PNP, Florida State
Acceptance: Utah (MS), NIU (MA)
No Word Yet: Arizona, Georgia State B&B track (MA)
Congrats! What is an MS? A Master in Science?

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At the risk of making myself identifiable to various parties, I'm posting here for some very general thoughts.

Yesterday, I got the email from UColorado - Boulder which was, at the same time, a PhD rejection and an MA acceptance. I've also been accepted to the PhD program at Temple, though without funding. I was a slacker as an undergraduate, so this is the sum total of my options at this point.

Before I go to talk to my advisor, professors, etc about my choices, I thought I'd open it up to see what you guys think. On the one hand, Temple offers a PhD program, potential outside funding in the future, and a decent law school with the chance of a dual degree (which interests me). The MA at Colorado would offer the chance to actually apply myself such that I might be a better applicant to a PhD program in two years.

Given that the funding situations are on a par, what are your thoughts? Emailing my advisor (I'll go meet with her after spring break to get her informed opinion), she seems moved to recommend UColorado.

Thanks
I'd recommend UColorado.

It would give you a chance to really improve your application, which would hopefully give you a solid shot at landing a funded offer from a decent program.

It is usually not wise to accept an unfunded PhD offer with the hopes of getting funding in the future. From what I understand, this potential for future funding rarely materializes. Of course, this probably varies from program to program.

Now, if you have good evidence that it is *highly likely* for future funding at Temple to materialize, and you think you would be *extremely* happy at Temple, perhaps this may lean the recommendation to Temple.

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Anonymous

7 years ago

Just got the letter via snail mail today. There is no mention of funding and in fact, when I contacted the departmental secretary she was unable to tell me anything about whether or not I would eventually receive funding. I really don't know though, even if I do manage to get a TA-ship whether I'll be able to go. I visited UIUC's department on Wednesday and spent nearly the whole day there talking with faculty and graduate students and sitting in on a class. While I'm only on the waitlist the new chair of the department tried to tell me without actually telling revealing any specifics that my chances of getting a funded offer were very good. If a PhD offer of this type (I like the department and the funding will be guaranteed for at least 5 years) is on the table, turning it down in this economic climate and with the prospect of an even more fierce admissions environment in coming years seems unwise. Maybe my decision will be made for me though. This process has definitely not gone as planned but maybe some things will happen at the last minute.
oh cool, who'd you sit in on? Which grad students did you talk to (if you recall)?

Purdue MA

Anonymous

March 20 2009, 17:59:01 UTC 7 years ago

Anyone know when Purdue is going to notify MA applicants??

Also, any idea what their doctoral placement is like?

How does it stack with other terminal MA programs?
I just spoke to Professor Manders and it sounds like the waiting list at University of Pittsburgh is rather long, although I didn't get any details about the specific length.
I'd suggest emailing a few students to see what they think of it there. After spending a good deal of time with three of them, I decided I shouldn't even apply. They had very few good things to say.
Anybody heard anything? They were supposed to make their decisions by today...
I am also waiting for news on Oxford funding. Indeed, Ms Victoria Payne had promised they would announce the awards today.

What course are you taking there? I will (hopefully) be taking the MSt in Ancient Philosophy.

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Breif list of "Continental" philosophers: Pascal, Rousseau, La Rochefoucauld, Nietzsche, Kant, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Heidegger, Derrida, E.M. Cioran. (I would personally rank only Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, and La Rochefoucauld as philosophers though, but that is an entirely different conversation.)

What they do is change "the world," while the "analytic" "philosophers" waste away in academic salt mines and are content not merely to insult philosohers and Philosophy itself, but are fond of smearing the natural sciences as well by making obvious observations, quotidian conclusions, and wasting huge sums of time on what science will obviate before their prestigious journal article is even published. Scientifically, analytical "philosophers" are generally prosaic, and essentially mediocre, if not blatantly bad, scientists; artistically, they are contemptibly dull and nugatory in the superlative. If you dropped Aristophanes into Oxford/Cambridge or Princeton or NYU or MIT or almost any U.S. or U.K. philosophy program he would have turned the Clouds into a paean to Socrates and most likely picked up a sword and charged in until his arm was too tired to raise the blade anymore. Alternatively, he would be crushed with the problem of nihilism upon realizing that the killing of analyticals lacked any significance, but when he picked up a fallen analytic's journal submission, he would be freed from the problem by falling on his own blade. (So perhaps analyticals are the solution to all our recent existential riddles!)

The bar is higher to be an actual intellectual visionary (the only way you can matter in the “Continental” tradition and actually be decorated with the title Philosopher) as opposed to a research "scientist" publishing in "prestigious journals" (haha); the Continental tradition requires not mere analytical/reasoning abilities, but *creativity* as well. Its fine (and expected) to make rigorous anatomies of a problem, but when presenting the problem and "solutions" style is as important as the thought. Analyticals horribly valorize "clarity" which is why Derrida drives flatheads like Lieter crazy (also because Lieter is typical bourgeois American and doesn’t understand Europe in general and of course has not read Stendhal who might have helped him understand that, “in France, simplicity is a sin.”) Amusingly, Lieter is supposed to be a Nietzsche scholar, (he missed all the passages about Zarathrustra's ape) and is utterly oblivious that Nietzsche himself questioned the value of clarity, which is one of the main sources where Derrida picks up his own challenge of clarity. Also expected in the European tradition is the ability to grapple with the largest questions of philosophy, not mere scholarship, whereas analyticals are not merely confined to scholarship, but seemingly oblivious to the _actual_ questions of philosophy and the greatest riddles of existence.

The "research" program for all *real* philosophy is _Life_, not pie graphs, a lab, and a lecture hall. Ultimately, Europe is the true heir of the philosophical project left to Western Civilization by Plato, while analytical philosophy is a mere career path to ward off the boredom at the end of history until one is annihilated. Sadly, there is no choice to be made here; you are either a creative genius, or a waste. (So I suppose if you want a mere career at the end of history, being an analytic philosopher will not be so terrible.)



ur pal,

Autolycus
Did anyone hear apply to Brandeis' new MA program? Despite what the ad on Leiter Reports says, they DO charge an application fee (which I suppose might be refunded).
I applied because it's a one-year semi-funded program with professors who seem up on their game. Did anyone here go to Brandeis as an undergraduate? Just curious what you all think, especially about the relative merits and dangers of a new program.
*here

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7 years ago

Post below...

I'll start

Declined - Tufts, New School
Declined Arizona and UT-Austin

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BC

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March 20 2009, 23:29:56 UTC 7 years ago

I still have not heard from Boston College. Any body else? Or did my app. fall through the cracks?

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7 years ago

DePaul and Boston University won't respond to my emailed requests for application status. I will assume rejection but anyone else in the same boat?
I didn't hear from DePaul til I emailed them around March 15
If you haven't heard, you're rejected, as it's been quite a while since they've contacted all their acceptees and wait listers

kind of a shame; it's a great program :-(
they're stupid fuckers, though, b/c they didn't want me! = not that smart, apparently :-)
I can imagine some reasons for it, but has anyone else found it odd that s/he was rejected by some departments CONSIDERABLY less prestigious than departments to which s/he was accepted (or waitlisted)?

In my own case, I was rejected by a department ranked in the low-30's of PGR, but accepted at a department solidly in the top-20. Anyone else have this (or something similar) happen?
Yes, both the places I was accepted are ranked somewhat higher than the places I was waitlisted, and I was rejected by many lower-ranked places. I guess I had an odd-ball app.

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7 years ago

UCONN

Anonymous

March 21 2009, 18:03:18 UTC 7 years ago

Has anyone heard from UCONN? Someone posted a wait list a while ago on TGC, not sure if that was real.

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March 21 2009, 21:00:48 UTC 7 years ago

I also haven't heard anything. Have you contacted the department yet?

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7 years ago

Hi, I'm new to both the grad cafe and this forum.

My results so far have been a little disappointing, but I have been admitted to one program that I wouldn't mind attending and wait-listed at Brown (and I would love to attend there). I noticed that a couple of others here have been either accepted or wait-listed, and I was wondering if any of you accepted or wait-listed individuals were thinking of declining your offer for another (or if you have decided to accept your offer, I guess I would like to know that)? Also, if any of you know how many others are on the wait-list or were admitted (or if the list is ranked), I would be interested in that as well.

Thanks!
finally came in the mail today. Nice form letter. Not unexpected.