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I've been waitlisted at Georgia State and U Milwaukee, but its unlikely I'll get in.

Offers from Manitoba, Victoria, and Simon Fraser. Anyone have any thoughts? All are funded, however Manitoba will cost me about 8K a year, vs 4 for Victoria, funding the same.

Not really considering SFU, not great placement and less funding.
What is the funding like at Manitoba?

Re: Manitoba vs. Victoria?

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: Manitoba vs. Victoria?

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7 years ago

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Anonymous

7 years ago

I will be declining both of these schools within the next few hours.


UCSD doesn't use a waitlist, so that doesn't help anybody.

However, for anyone on the UNC waitlist (and especially males with interests in philosophy of science), this should be good news.

I should note that turning down UNC was an extremely hard decision, and anyone with interests in natural laws or more general philosophy of science really couldn't find a better place to be.

-axlfoley
If you don't mind my asking, where you headed?

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7 years ago

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7 years ago

Re: Declined: UNC and UCSD

Anonymous

7 years ago

I will be declining UCSB shortly.
I declined UCSB today. (that is my OP)
I was previously rejected by Missouri, with a short letter saying that though my record was good, a 85% GRE score just wasn't high enough.
Suddenly, out of the blue, I was picked off the rejection list and given an admission with TAship.

Now I have Utah PhD, Georgia State MA, and Missouri on my hands. This is very unexpected!

Congratulations! I think that Missouri is a fine program. Do you have any thoughts yet on where you might go?
Would anyone receiving a funded offer from Virginia Tech be willing to share the details of their funding package (I am on the waitlist for funding and am trying to weigh my options in the case that I were to receive it). Thank you in advance.
I think it was something like $11-12k. I declined. Best of luck!

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UConn

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 05:27:00 UTC 7 years ago

Anyone heard anything from UConn? This is incredible.
Anyone off the waitlist recently want to decline?
If so ,please do it ASAP,I am still on the list.
I am also on the list. Definitely taking it if offered. What's your area of study?

Re: Anyone plan to decline Rice?

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7 years ago

Re: Anyone plan to decline Rice?

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7 years ago

Re: Anyone plan to decline Rice?

Anonymous

7 years ago

Rutgers

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 08:13:43 UTC 7 years ago

Anyone out there thinking about declining Rutgers?

NYU?

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 12:17:13 UTC 7 years ago

Crazy question maybe...but is anyone out there thinking of declining NYU?

Re: NYU?

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 14:45:34 UTC 7 years ago

I don't know, but don't give up hope.
Good luck to everyone still sweating it out!
I got an email from Gilbert Harman last night offering me a fully funded spot at Princeton. I was on the wait list and had assumed my chances were next to nil (which perhaps they were). I've already accepted the offer and will soon be declining my Michigan offer and taking myself off the Cornell wait list (the former of which I am somewhat sad though not at all hesitant about). I am ecstatic, and for many reasons, including many personal life issues that this affects. I wish everyone good luck, and I am utterly empathic towards those on wait lists. The last few weeks have been indescribably difficult, and I feel for anyone still in a similar position. I hope my Michigan declination and Cornell self-de-wait-listing help somebody out.

In conclusion: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!
Congratulations! These next 5 days are gonna be a bitch of a time as these waitlists unfold.
CUA is closed today and Monday (for Easter), so they won't know until Tuesday, but I've decided to accept their offer.

The only other school in the discussion was Saint Louis University, where I am on an undefined waitlist and unlikely to get an offer anyway. I have come to realize that CUA would be a better fit for me, and that if SLU were to make me an offer next week I'd decline.

This concludes a two-and-a-half year journey for me, since the day I decided to pursue graduate school. I was shut out last year and worked hard this year to improve my chances—and was very fortunate that it paid off. For those who are on the bubble or got shut out, keep your hopes alive and see whether there's some way you can improve your chances for next spring. It took a lot of patience and perseverance, but I am very glad that I stuck with it through another agonizing year.

I now know where I'll be this fall, and I know that I'll be doing what I love. That's an unreal feeling. (Honestly I didn't think it would happen!)

Good luck to everyone who is still making decisions or waiting for that magical phone call!
And congrats to you for sticking with it! I also got shutout last year, but I stuck with it and have had more success this year. I know that it takes a real commitment to keep pursuing something for an additional 1.5 years after being rejected the first time around.

difficult

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 16:41:08 UTC 7 years ago

This is officially the hardest decision I've ever made in my life. Agonizing. The decision to get married (and to whom) was far easier.
I recommend abdicating your autonomy by just flipping a coin (or rolling a die depending on the number of schools involved) and going with whatever comes up. The decision is thus made quick and easy; and if the chosen school turns out to be a shithole down the road, you can just blame the coin instead of shouldering the heavy burden of choosing the wrong school yourself. Win-win!

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7 years ago

Hi all,

I just declined Boulder, and accepted Madison. Boulder's offer included standard TAship funding + 3 summers of funding ($2500 per summer for first 3 summers), and I know the summer funding will now go to someone else, so hopefully my declination will help one of you.

Best of luck to all of you who have to go through April 15th hell; I hope ya'll get into your top choices.

peace out!

I just received word today (within the same half hour window) that I've been awarded the Kant/post-Kantian German Idealism fellowship at GA State AND have been admitted with a fully-funded TA-ship offer at UIUC (still on the wait-list for a fellowship).

My decision is made much more difficult by the fact that though I thought I had been admitted to Riverside's department last week, after an e-mail from the chair, I learned that I have in fact not even been nominated for admission (though I am on their unofficial "wait-list"); I'm willing to bet though that the professor who contacted me (Dr. Keller) has some privileged information that the chair could not reveal (i.e. I'm close to getting an offer). This complicates matters because, while GA State's offer is good (not great though due to the economic crisis) I would almost assuredly try to make any Riverside offer work.

So now I'm left with the problem of waiting for an offer from Riverside that might never come ... while many others could benefit from the offers I now have.
Did you inform the chair of what you were told in Keller's email? If not, do so. Either way, put some pressure on them--tell them that you will assuredly accept a funded offer should one be extended and that you have two other funded offers on the table. Push them...you have only three more business days.

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7 years ago

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7 years ago

I just declined offers from both Carnegie Mellon and UNC. For those of you on the wait-list at UNC, I should mention that I am male and my primary areas of interest are logic, formal epistemology, and philosophy of science.

A few days ago I declined offers from Notre Dame and UC-Irvine LPS and withdrew my name from the wait-list at UCLA. I will either go to Berkeley (where I am currently on the wait-list), Columbia, or Michigan. I plan to make a decision within the next couple days (it will probably be: Berkeley if accepted; Columbia otherwise).

Good luck to everyone on the wait-lists!
Why on Earth would someone interested in logic and phil. science take Columbia over Michigan. Philip Kitcher is an all-star, but Michigan has a lot more phil. science people and is overall a much better department.

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7 years ago

I'm particularly interested in studying in continental Europe in the future for various reasons. Are there any programs taught in English in any of those countries? I know that some Dutch and Scandinavian universities offer English-language programs, but I haven't seen any such programs in France, Germany or Italy. It would be nice if any of you recommend some decent philosophy PhD programs there. Thanks.
Barring I get "un-rejected," as the poster did at Missouri, the season for me is complete. (By the way, how shady is that? If that becomes common practice, doesn't it give people the incentive to not commit until April 15th no matter what?)
So, since I know where I'll be headed, I thought I would post my final results, for now or for prospectives next year to check out:
Background: B.A. from an excellent state school, philosophy GPA about 3.3. M.A. from an off-the-map program (which, for the record, greatly improved my results from the first time I applied straight out of my B.A., despite it not being a top program.) M.A. GPA-- 4.0
Letter writers--No big names, but I knew them somewhat well because of the small program.
Writing Sample was in epistemology, specifically on "knowledge" and responses to Gettier-cases.
GRE: 1440 (720, 720, 5.0)

Results (in no particular order):
UNC -- Rejected
NYU -- Rejected
Notre Dame -- Rejected
CUNY -- Rejected
Miami -- Rejected
UMass-Amherst -- Rejected
FSU -- Accepted w/ funds, declined
Missouri-Columbia -- Accepted, w/ funds (off of the waitlist), declined
Tulane -- Accepted w/ fellowship, declined
Wayne State University -- Accepted w/ funds, declined
Arkansas -- Withdrew from consideration
Nebraska -- Accepted w/ funds, Accepted offer.

Anyone else heading to Nebraska next year?

Best of luck to everyone!
So, I am currently sitting on a nice neurophilosophy fellowship at Georgia State. I have been informed that the decision of the person on the waitlist for the neurophilosophy fellowship hinges on whether or not she will receive the fellowship.

However, I cannot presently accept nor decline GSU's fellowship offer, because I am holding out hope for coming off waitlists at either Indiana or Wash U PNP.

So, as there are those who are waiting for me to make a decision, I am waiting for others so I can make a decision. And I am sure there are dozens and dozens of other people that are in positions similar to me and my waitlisted friend at Georgia State.

So please, if you are in a position to accept, decline, or withdraw, please do so!


(For the record, I have pulled my name from every other program that I was accepted or waitlisted at.)
I'm someone who could help you help others. But, I'll turn down my Indiana offer if, and only if, I hear back positively from one of the three waitlists I'm waiting on. And so we both wait until this cascading shitshow can begin...

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7 years ago

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7 years ago

Does anyone have any advice about which one to choose for the M.A.? Anything at all will probably be helpful. I am interested in ethics. Thanks in advance.
My cousin attended Virgina Tech. for his M.A. He decided to attend law school afterward, so he does not have any experience with VT's placement. However, he had some negative things to say about how the program was structured: some of the teaching loads and the like. He never mentioned faculty were not supportive or anything like that, but on the whole, he did not seem extensively happy with the program.

This is only one anecdote, so take it with a grain of salt. But I've got the anecdote and figured I would share it.

Also, some students from my undergrad institution have gone to Western Michigan and say the school is quite supportive on the whole. They seem to enjoy their time there. More anecdotes, but again I feel I should provide them.

I would suggest e-mailing some current grad students. They can probably give you the most accurate and candid picture — much better than second-hand information through me.

Re: Western Michigan or Virginia Tech?

Anonymous

7 years ago

Noting the post above, I would encourage all those willing to post up their results as well as background info (i.e. GRE, UG GPA, UG institution, MA, etc). I feel like, aside from catharsis and rumor-swapping, this is the main utility of the board.
I come from a small liberal arts college in the Midwest. My interests have been in Kantian critical philosophy (especially epistemological themes, space and time), phenomenology and Heidegger. All of my recommendations were enthusiastic, but the writers themselves were not famous within my areas of interest (though one is a well-known Sartrian). My overall GPA was 3.94 when I applied (will be a bit lower after this semester) and 3.9 within the major. My GRE scores were 680V, 720M, 5.0AW. My writing sample was entitled "The Analogies' Role in a Temporal Experience"; it argued for the conceptual priority of sensibility's activity in relation to the two main types of temporal determination described in the Analogies; I received no feedback on it prior to submitting my applications.

My results are as follows:

Yale University:
Rejected
University of Notre Dame:
Rejected
Loyola University of Chicago:
Rejected
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign:
Accepted off the waitlist with a fully-funded 5-yr TA-ship (on the
wait-list for a first year fellowship)
University of California, Riverside:
Wait-listed for admission and funding (was told I was close to being
accepted but have since received conflicting accounts)
Duquesne University:
Wait-listed for admission and funding (funding not likely)
Western Michigan University (MA):
Accepted w/o funding (other than loans)
University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee (MA):
Wait-listed (low likelihood of getting any money at this point)
Georgia State University (MA):
Accepted and later offered the Kant/post-Kantian German Idealism
Fellowship

Hope this is of help to anyone applying next year (or thereafter).

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7 years ago

Re: more results please

Anonymous

7 years ago

So far I have heard nothing from the school so I assume that I'm on the waitlist. There are some instances on the TGC of being accepted off the waitlist in the past years. So I want to ask if the possibility exists this year as well.

And, I'm accepted by the master program at CUNY, does anyone know anything about prgram? Is it like what Leiter says that "students with weak philosophy backgrounds may find the pace and level of seminars geared to Ph.D. students daunting"? How is the situation for the MA students there? Thanks!
with all you people holding those GSU offers, even though you got into PhDs with funding?!

I suppose it's doubly frustrating because I want to go to GSU not to improve my phd placement ranking a few notches, but because I actually want to go there for the program itself, and it's not some stepping stone stone. Perhaps its only because I have worked a few years, but it seems ridiculous to want to spend an extra 2 years when you don't have to.

Were all so smart and gifted, but Mr. Leiter reduces us to a bunch of fretting twits over what are in the end, negligible differences.
I am not sure how improved probability of being able to land a good job upon graduation (or a good job at all!) is considered a "negligible difference". However, I fully agree that if the motivating force is _exclusively_ to get into a "higher ranked" program, than that is silly.

My advice to all of us that are sitting on funded PhD offers AND great MA offers would be something roughly as follows:

If you are accepted into a PhD program that has a placement record that you find acceptable, the program seems to fit your interests (research-wise and otherwise), and the funding package is livable, then take the funded PhD offer. However, if you are not comfortable with the placement record or if other things about the department seem dodgy to you, then strongly consider the MA offer. (But even this would be a very difficult decision. It may be hard to give up any definite PhD offer, even if it is almost definite that it would be in your best interest to do so.)

But what about this wild card case: An applicant is accepted into a solid PhD program, which clearly meets the above criteria, but applicant would love to go to hotshot MA program X, not as a stepping stone, but because applicant is genuinely interested in the opportunity to work with Professors X,Y & Z at that MA program? Should you ever risk a definite PhD offer (remind you, one that you are completely satisfied with, i.e., you would be completely happy if you did your two years at the MA and ended up going to this PhD program) for the opportunity to work with someone at an MA program?

Re: What's the deal

ffahog

7 years ago

Re: What's the deal

Anonymous

7 years ago

I don't know why he's thought of so ill here. The PGR was really helpful for me deciding where to apply.
Agreed! It's a really good factor in one's decisions, provided that it's treated as only ONE factor.

Re: Thank you, Brian Leiter

Anonymous

7 years ago

Anyone here declining any top 20 schools? There are number of them that I am waitlisted at and it would ease my angst to hear some good news (or even bad news, providing perhaps some closure)!