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I Went to a PGR top 30 school GPA >3.9 GRE: 600V 590Q 5.0A (these probably hurt). I double majored in philosophy and psychology but spent a lot of time in the psych department during my junior and senior years, so I only got the minimum of philosophy credits (probably hurt me too). I also worked for 2 years in a psych lab after graduation. 3 of my letters were from very good philosophers (an assistant prof, an associate prof, and a full prof) though I hadn't had one of them since my sophomore year, so I had to remind him about me with samples of my work. I had a 4th letter writer who was my prof in the psychology lab. My interests are mainly in philosophy of mind, metaethics, and applied ethics (including public policy and ethics) but recently I've also become interested in the philosophy of economics. I mainly followed my letter writers' suggestions about what range of schools I applied to, but then in december I freaked out a little and applied to a few below that range; and am I ever glad that I did!

REJECTED: Harvard, Berkeley, MIT, Yale, Rutgers, Chapel Hill, Texas, U of Arizona, Princeton, Cornell, Notre Dame, San Diego, Duke, Ohio State

WAITLIST: U of Wisconsin ("very high")

NOT HEARD A DAMN THING: Riverside

ACCEPTED: Maryland (from wait-list)

I'm actually quite happy with my acceptance at Maryland and I'll probably decline Wisconsin if they offered (mainly because they pay you crap and make you teach 4 sections, with no summer funding), though I'm not completely sure about this yet. However, the more I learn about Maryland the more it seems like it will be a good fit for me (I can live without the meta-ethics part). If I hear nothing from Wisconsin by this afternoon, then I'll get off of their waitlist and accept Maryland, so that I'm not causing problems for others on the waitlists.

Good luck to everyone who's fate has not yet been decided!

Turning down a program that may be better for you on account of the stipend seems to me to be a bit ridiculous. Others have made it work. So can you. Let's not get too greedy after receiving a FREE Ph.D. and some cash for living. After all, the stipends come for 4-6 years...you have a lifetime salary to worry about at the next stage (so put yourself in the best position to get a good job).

Re: Final Results

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: Final Results

Anonymous

7 years ago

Will be declining funded offer from Utah
Where are you going?

Re: Declining Utah

Anonymous

7 years ago

Anonymous

April 14 2009, 17:24:22 UTC 7 years ago

Indiana unexpectedly fell through; I withdraw from Wash U PNP waiting list.

I'll be accepting GSU neurophilosophy fellowship afterall. (Hope this helps others make a timely decision. Best of luck to everyone still waiting!)

Anonymous

April 14 2009, 17:42:32 UTC 7 years ago

Congrats! You'll be formidable on the market next year. Good luck at GSU.

Anonymous

April 14 2009, 17:32:08 UTC 7 years ago

Is it common for schools to inform waitlisters (whether they are waitlisted for admission or funding) when all the slots have been filled--to let them know that it's not going to happen?
Yes, it is typical to release students from the waitlist when slots are filled. But there is nothing wrong with checking in, or making a special request to be informed.
I have just turned their their full scholarship offer. I will probably take the offer from St Andrews (which includes a better funding package), if Cambridge does not offer any money.
If you don't mind, could you specify the funding at St. Andrews? When/how did you find out?

Re: Declined UWO

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: Declined UWO

Anonymous

7 years ago

I will therefore be declining an offer from Indiana University (interests: Philosophy of Action, Kant, ethics)
Congratulations! Enjoy Palo Alto. Any word yet on the Woods' status?
I emailed Brown where I'm waitlisted.

Response: "At this point it is still possible that you will be admitted, but I’m afraid it’s pretty unlikely. Most of our slots have been filled."

Bummer, they seem like great people at a great program.

They do not comment on positions on the waitlist, but good luck to those of you apparently higher than I am.
I guess these final posting may prove helpful to future candidates, so I will post my stuff one last time:

Graduating from a very average state school in the Southeast with a small but mainstream department.
Double major in philosophy and psychology, 4.0 overall
GRE: 1380 overall, 570 verbal, 780 quant, 6.0 AW
Glowing letters of recommendation from 3 philosophers
Writing Sample: X-Phi paper on the relationship between the Knobe Effect and the Simple View of Intentionality
Interests: Philosophy of Mind, Action, Moral Psychology, X-Phi

Yale - Rejected
North Carolina - Rejected
Arizona - held out on second-tier waitlist until ~4/6
Indiana - very high on waitlist, rejected 4/14
UMASS - rejected
Duke - rejected
Wisconsin - rejected
Wash U - high on the waitlist, withdrew 4/14
Florida State - waitlisted, withdrew ~4/3
Northwestern - waitlisted
Utah - accepted w/ funding, withdrew ~4/1
Northern Illinois - accepted, withdrew
Georgia State - accepted, neurophilosophy fellowship, I accepted 4/14

Given my background, my off-mainstream writing sample, and my lopsided GRE scores, I am very happy with my outcome. I went into this not knowing if I would even come close at any of the PhD-granting institutions, and I came *very* close at a couple quality programs. In the end, I had the opportunity to accept what is probably the best possible MA offer, given my interests, and will have a chance to strengthen my abilities, build my resume, and hopefully do even better next time around.

One last important point: My "specialized" writing sample probably hurt me at a handful of the programs I applied to, but it also clearly helped me at a couple others (by way of testimony from some of those that read it).
Congratulations on the fellowship at GSU. I suspect you will have very favorable results when you apply again in a couple of years.
Declined offer from Michigan.
Is anyone on here still holding offers? If you are do you expect to accept or decline?
I have an offer, and I intend to accept unless I am accepted off the waitlist of another program (which isn't looking likely).

Re: UW-Milwaukee

Anonymous

7 years ago

I have accepted an offer at Wisconsin-Madison. It was a difficult decision between there and Washington University-St.Louis (where I was the current 1 spot on the WL and have declined). Best of luck to everyone!

Congrats! The end of a long journey. How does it feel?

Re: It's all over

Anonymous

7 years ago

Education: Will graduate this May from a borderline top-30 PGR program

Primary interests: Philosophy of science, philosophy of physics, epistemology

Coursework: Philosophy major, physics minor

Letters: Four total, three from philosophers of science, two from other universities

GPA: 3.96

GRE: 800/800/5.5

Writing Sample: A case study in the epistemology of experiment on the introduction of the cathode-ray oscillograph into electrophysiology.

Results:

Accepted:
Indiana (HPS)
Maryland
UCSD (Science Studies)
UC Irvine (LPS)
Rutgers
Pitt (HPS) (I accepted)
Michigan (off wait-list)
Notre Dame (HPS)

Rejected:
Princeton

I hope this information is useful to someone in the future. Those interested in HPS might want to note that the fact that my writing sample had a strong historical component didn't seem to hurt me too much in applying to straight philosophy departments. However, I did work to foreground the philosophical issues and to demonstrate early in the paper an ability to make a cogent argument for a philosophical claim. Michigan and the HPS programs seemed to like the fact that I did original historical work rather than recycling a case from the literature.
I didn't do very well compared to you guys/girls.

Graduating this semester from UVA with B.A. in Philosophy
GPA: 3.98 (3.96 Philosophy)
650V/740Q/6.0AW
Interest: Metaethics, history of ancient
Writing sample: Apparently it was "too safe" and didn't display enough original thought according to two adcoms. I really should have submitted a different paper now that I think about it.

Results:
Arizona (rejected)
Notre Dame (haven't heard anything--rejected)
Pittsburgh (got a rejection letter in the 2nd round of their rejections)
Ohio State (initially waitlisted, then rejected)
Wisconsin-Madison (initially waitlisted, then rejected)
Georgetown (accepted, still on the waitlist for funding)
Johns Hopkins (rejected)
Virginia Tech (accepted, never got off the waitlist for funding)

What a disheartening, humbling, and expensive experience. There's still a chance at Georgetown, but I've pretty much given up hope.

I really don't mind about not getting in anywhere. It's only that I made all of my plans as if I would get funding SOMEWHERE, and now I have to scramble to find a job with a BA in Philosophy. This should be fun.
I'm sorry to hear about your results. Do you know where you are on the waitlist for funding at VT? It's still possible that I will give up my funded offer.

Re: (Bad) Results

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: (Bad) Results

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: (Bad) Results

ffahog

7 years ago

Hey, if you are on the waitlist or have been accepted to UVa and you don't want to go there... please for the sake my sanity reject them as soon as possible. I don't know if I'm going to get any sleep tonight.
Stay strong!

Re: An Appeal

Anonymous

7 years ago

I'm in a situation where I am accepted to a good US program, but #1 on the wait-list for Toronto's HPS program. Tomorrow is, of course, THE DAY. Apparently however, Toronto's accepted applicants don't need to notify them of acceptance until a good bit later.

Does anyone know the date by which Toronto HPS needs to be notified of acceptances?

I like my US programs, but I REALLY want to be at Toronto. What should I do?
Just talk to people on both sides and I am sure they will be understanding.
I have, and I've started a Facebook group called "Arizona Philosophy Ph.D. Students" so that we can get in touch. If you're starting this fall, find it and join up!
Because I'm considering it. How common is it to accept an unfunded offer?
Definitely crazy if it's a PhD program. Much tougher call, at least, for the M.A.
I'm currently third on their wait-list, and will joyfully accept the offer if they get to me. The report I get from Dr. Pasnau is that they are still waiting on several people to either accept or reject offers from them. Anyone willing to give a forecast of their plans?
I rejected their offer earlier today. It was around noon though, so you may have already heard about me.
I have heard from a reliable source that there a couple outstanding Northwestern offers still out there. Stay on the wait list since something may happen.

$$ ???

Anonymous

April 15 2009, 00:40:50 UTC 7 years ago

Can someone share info on what the financial package is like at NU?? (Quickly!)

Re: $$ ???

Anonymous

7 years ago

????????

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: ????????

pro_persona

7 years ago

It's April 15th... but it's before 5pm.

You are already committed to a fantastic school, but suddenly you are popped off of a wait list that - now that you think about it - you are thinking you really should have held out for. (In fact, the only reason you didn't hop off of it once you accepted your other offer was because, maybe, you thought this might happen).

Would it be the worst thing in the world to renege on the offer that you accepted and take the new offer??????

Is it MODERATELY acceptable (though still frowned upon) if it's before 5pm???

shit shit shit.

Help.
Yes. They will understand.

Re: HELP!! (A very difficult question).

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: HELP!! (A very difficult question).

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: HELP!! (A very difficult question).

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: HELP!! (A very difficult question).

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: HELP!! (A very difficult question).

Anonymous

7 years ago

Charge your phone, set your alarm for 9am EST, stay close to a computer with internet access, write and save a draft of the email you will send to each program you will decline, and get ready for a big day tomorrow. THE ADMISSIONS DELUGE!!!
I've heard a lot of talk about the supposed "deluge" coming on April 15th. I for one will be quite disappointed with anything less than an admissions flood of biblical proportions.

Re: Alright, Waitlistees...

Anonymous

7 years ago

I have a funding offer from UIUC and am waitlisted for funding at Cincinnati -- planning to study mind and science. In case Cincinnati $$ comes my way tomorrow, thoughts on this choice? Def leaning toward Cinci but would love to hear opinions, please! Thank you!
I'd let their placement records do the talking ...
Am accepting their offer, and declining an offer from USC so hopefully that helps someone. (Was very difficult to decline USC, but couldn't go both places.) UCLA's incoming class is apparently now full. Also, was rejected off waitlist from Rutgers today, and was told their class is now full as well.
Congratulations! And, I suppose, you can still visit some USC seminars.

Re: In off UCLA waitlist

Anonymous

7 years ago

Re: In off UCLA waitlist

Anonymous

7 years ago

Got an email an hour ago:

I'm sorry to bring you what might seem bad news, but as it happens the Duke Dept of Philosophy now has its quota of acceptances and we won't be in a position to make offers to anyone on our wait-list this year

Sucks for me.

btw, does anyone have any info on JHU's waitlist situation? It's the one remaining waitlist for me.
Declined Michigan, accepted Pitt Philosophy.

Finally done.

Re: Pitt

Anonymous

April 15 2009, 07:01:13 UTC 7 years ago

Good choice.