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Philosophy Part 2

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Anonymous

April 16 2009, 11:25:40 UTC 8 years ago

I finished my undergrad three years ago. I didn't read philosophy for fun for about the first year and a half after graduating. I can't imagine anything better than getting paid to read/study and teach philosophy.
Hey, if you declined Indiana in the last two days, especially if you were sitting on another superior offer, I offer you all a BIG FUCK YOU!!!

Due to unforeseen issues, they rejected all of their waitlisters, prior to "filling their original class".

If you selfish, egotistical, dumb muthafuckers would have declined your spot last week, several of us on the waitlist would have made it in.

(This doesn't go out to all of you. Obviously deciding between UT and Indiana, given certain interests, is a very difficult, perhaps last minute decision, but sitting on an offer from Stanford and Indiana for over two months and waiting until the day of to make a decision, that is simply inexcusable.)
you shoulda been gud enuff to make first round offa, yous da stoopid one son
Wow. It looks as though not much happened on deadline day, or not much was said about it. Is anyone still expecting to hear about a waitlist today? Any unreported results?
I get this feeling that this was a rough year actually. It seems like a good number of places didn't go to their wait-list at all. But perhaps that has been more common in the past than I realize

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Anonymous

8 years ago

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Anonymous

8 years ago

GSU

Anonymous

April 16 2009, 14:24:04 UTC 8 years ago

anyone know if GSU is full, or are they still making wait list offers?
does anyone know of any hidden gem programs that have access to both of these fields? I know USC, UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, Riverside (basically any california institution) all have good fields, but what about elsewhere?
For MA programs, maybe GSU.

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

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Anonymous

8 years ago

Does anyone care to use their hard-won insight to advise next year's applicants? Anyone care to give me specific advice, given my situation? Particularly on choosing letter writers and choosing/refining a writing sample?

Attended good (Ivy-ish) university, majored in English and completed the standard-fare pre-med courses. Took two philosophy classes-- one A, one "Pass". Overall GPA: 3.75

Worked for couple years.

Attend fairly good MA program in philosophy. GPA: 4.0, and I expect it will stay close to that until I apply.

GRE: 800,800, 5.5

Interests (in descending order): mind/cog sci, science, bio, political

Anyway, I'm fretting already. For every post that makes me think, "oh, it's not all that bad," there's another sending me to lawschoolnumbers.com.
If stats were the main thing, you'd be all set. But they aren't. They're a sideshow to the main event, which is the writing sample. So work on that, and if it's good, and you feel like applying next year, you'll do fine.
Received an email from David Papineau this morning offering me a place in their Master's program. No funding, however. I have a tough decision to make now.
I also have an offer from KCL. Mine is for the PhD. I am at the first place at the waitlist for a scholarship from Santander.

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Anonymous

8 years ago

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good book to use to learn symbolic logic?
The Barwise/Etchemendy book. It's the best around.

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Anonymous

8 years ago

Accepted off of waitlist yesterday with full funding. Just declined. Good luck to whomever is next on the list.
Not with a bang but with a whimper.
Can anyone recommend me some introductory books on philosophy of science and philosophy of math?

I haven't taken courses on those areas in undergrad, and I suspect that I won't in grad school either, but I would still like to have at least a vague idea of what goes on in those areas.
With philosophy of math, you can try:

1. Thinking about Mathematics: The Philosophy of Mathematics by Stewart Shapiro [pretty accessible]
2. Philosophy of Mathematics: Selected Readings by Paul Benacerraf and Hilary Putnam
3. The Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Mathematics and Logic (Oxford Handbooks) by Stewart Shapiro [survey papers]

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Anonymous

April 18 2009, 00:06:20 UTC 8 years ago

If you can own only one book in general phil of sci make it the following:

-The methodology of scientific research programmes (Lakatos).

Best phil of science collection?

Criticism and the Growth of Knowledge (Lakatos and Musgrave Eds).

results

Anonymous

April 18 2009, 00:37:21 UTC 8 years ago

Going to Victoria, declined Manitoba and Simon Fraser, hope that helps someone.

Did not get off the waitlist at GSU or Milwaukee, sigh.
Did the offer from Manitoba include funding?

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8 years ago

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Anonymous

8 years ago

Post here if you did not get any funded Ph.D. program offers.

(If you got an unfunded Ph.D. program offer but will not/did not accept it because it was unfunded, also post here. If you got an unfunded Ph.D. program offer but will/did accept it, do not post here.)
Shut out big time. Including several unranked programs. Lesson for the future: be mainstream.
Looks like the heats all gone...
but I was wondering how many people out of the US are here?
How will did you fare?
Hi there. I am an international student. I have been rejected by all US departments to which I applied (Columbia, Cornell, CUNY, Chicago, Virginia, and Northwestern). I applied to four UK departments (Oxford, St Andrews, Cambridge, KCL) and got accepted by all of them, with funding from two. Finally, I applied to two Canadian universities: rejected by the worse of the two, accepted by the better (with full funding). What about you?
CUNY has not contacted me. I applied ... got a confirmation of receiving my application ... and then nothing. I called, emailed 2 people ... none of them have replied. Of course I know this means rejection, but I paid $125. For a response ... at all... right? What should I do?
"What should I do?"

If you are certain that you are rejected, you should get over it!

If you are not certain that you are rejected, but have accepted an offer elsewhere, you should get over it!

If you are not certain that you are rejected, and have accepted no other offers, well ...

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Anonymous

8 years ago

How odd. I'm assuming they just mass emailed all the philosophy applicants that they rejected or something?

Now that I think about it, maybe I do want a Master degree focusing on 'Art Worlds and Gender Politics'!
Good night, and good luck, compatriots! :) May you be happy in your future endeavors.
I am currently an undergrad in philosophy, and will apply to PhD programs at the end of this year.
By taking a look at most philosophy department websites, I can see that most of them are very macho (at least this is what they look like). I was wondering which of these departments could be considered more gay-friendly...
Does anyone have any opinion about this?
What's so macho about philosophy dept. websites?
Apparently Sam Goody thinks the film "Wittgenstein" is a martial arts film: http://philosophengang.blogspot.com/2009/04/philosophy-is-martial-art.html (http://philosophengang.blogspot.com/2009/04/philosophy-is-martial-art.html). Now that almost everyone is going to graduate programs here, it is fitting to know that we need to work on our roundhouse kicks if we are ever going to really understand the private language argument.
To a parent who says that philosophy isn't good for anything and to do something else. It is very disconcerting to hear such words from a parent, especially when have no idea how fulfilling it is for me. Mind you, I will have another degree in another area that techincally pays more but by no means great money.

Its always about money :/. I don't want to hurt this parent's feelings. They are "trying" to look out for my best interests and I can see where they are coming from. But they don't know anything involved with graduate school for either subject.

Plus, I want to eventually teach. That doesn't pay an amazing amount of money. So I guess if I tell the parent I want to teach in philosophy, they may cut some slack. I don't know. I guess I'm talking to myself sort of.

This parent is so bright. They went to college but a long time ago so they may not know as much about it as they think they do.

I believe I will keep my philosophy graduate school endeavors hush hush until I get in (assuming I do. They have no idea how much money is involved with the application process. If only this parent knew!). At that time maybe I'll be ready to tell them my goals.
I think it depends on why they are against philosophy. If (as you suggest) they are simply concerned about your financial well-being, then it might actually help to explain the entire process to them. Acknowledge that philosophy professors don't make as much as others who have spent far less time in school, but that it is still likely that if you get into a good grad school (and do well there) that you will eventually find a pretty good teaching job. They also need to know that good PhD programs typically pay a living stipend and don't make you pay tuition, such that you come out of the deal with a free PhD and (hopefully) no debt. Most people do not realize this. For example, both of my parents are college educated but I don't think they truly believed me when I said that I wouldn't have to take any loans for grad school until they saw an offer letter from a program. I think your parent just needs to know that you are aware of the financial realities of life and won't go hopelessly in debt just because you are interested in philosophy.
I'm posting a (rather late) acceptance to the MA program. It was the only place I applied to, so, needless to say, I'm feeling pretty good about it.


To those admitted to ND, would you mind listing your GPA (undergrad/ masters if applicable)and GRE scores? Obviously the writing sample is the main ingredient to a good application, but I'm curious as to what the objective numbers look like. Thanks.

Thanks all

Anonymous

April 29 2009, 05:59:56 UTC 8 years ago

Dunno if anyone's still reading this, but just wanted to say thanks to everyone for being part of the community and sharing this forum the past few months. It made the whole process way more bearable... at least for me.