vbgihs (vbgihs) wrote in who_got_in,
vbgihs
vbgihs
who_got_in

Philosophy Part 2

We're a talkative bunch.
Subscribe
  • Post a new comment

    Error

    default userpic

    Your IP address will be recorded 

    When you submit the form an invisible reCAPTCHA check will be performed.
    You must follow the Privacy Policy and Google Terms of use.
  • 3037 comments
Hello,
I received a letter informing me that I was on the MIT waitlist. I was wondering if anyone knew how many people were placed on their waitlist. Thanks.
...I guess things are pretty much wrapping up for the year. Though I have still yet to hear from most of my schools (probably because I'm toast).
We're still waiting to hear back from UCLA and Columbia, which are big ones, and probably some others, and lots of people are still on wait lists. I want to see what happens on or around April 15th, 16th, 17th, when people are forced to make decisions. Particularly because I'm on the wait list at Princeton.

Re: Big slow down....

ffahog

8 years ago

So why has everybody been trash-talking Michigan? I'm curious, because I've seen a lot of jokes at their expense but not a lot of reasons why. Somebody said something about their placement record, which doesn't look too bad to me if you compare it to other schools (other than NYU). Other than that, I haven't seen any real reason why Michigan isn't an amazing school. Somebody (maybe the same person) said they were higher on the Leiter rankings than they should be, but they never supported the claim. So what's the deal? They look pretty good to me, unless you're into continental or something stupid like that.
I did a numerical comparison with two other programs that I've been accepted at (Rutgers and Pitt HPS). Here are the figures (rounded to the nearest % point):

Rutgers (1998-2008):
% of grads getting initial TT jobs: 63%

Pitt HPS (1998-2007):
% of grads getting initial TT jobs: 61%

Michigan (1998-2008):
% of grads getting initial TT jobs: 49%

Doing the same for just the last five years, the respective figures are Rutgers 65%, Pitt HPS 68%, Michigan 56%. So Michigan has done a little better in the last five years relative to their previous performance, but still worse than two other programs by a margin that I doubt is due to noise.

-T.W.

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Trashtalking Michigan?

Anonymous

8 years ago

I'm probably visiting Ohio State on Thursday or Friday. Anyone else doing an OSU campus tour sometime soon, or has anyone else taken one? If so, what'd you think?
I presented at a conference at OSU, and was really quite taken with it. Great faculty, and really smart, interesting grad students. If it were located in a large city (which would provide my spouse with the needed research avenues), I would have applied there myself.

In particular, I met Tim Schroeder and Justin D'Arms, both of whom are quite brilliant and generous with their time.

Hope that helps!

dh
Hi folks,
Does anyone second the advice above about emailing to express one's enthusiasm? Have a similar experience? Or have good reason to disagree with this sort of approach?
I've heard that in other disciplines writing and expressing enthusiasm as described above is quite normal and indeed expected...I should add that I've seen this done first hand in at least one other discipline, and whether or not it 'sealed the deal' in that case, it was definitely part of a success-story.
But for some reason I was under the impression that playing the enthusiasm card is not so much a part of the philosophy application process (and/or game...!)... Maybe I'm wrong about that though..??
Any thoughts very much appreciated....
I'm in wait-list hell..!! (Like so many others, I'm sure!)
:) thanks :)
It might be good to let schools at which you are waitlisted know where else you have offers. This might make you both look like a more desirable candidate, and suggest to them that if they want you they better act fast. (Most waitlist e-mails ask you to keep the department updated, so letting them know where else you have been admitted seems natural.)
Anyone heard back from these yet??
Haven't heard a peep about Marquette on this board or on GC. Anyone know anything at all about Marquette? It sounds to me like they haven't even made offers yet.

Catholic U has had some rejections / acceptance postings on GC but the acceptances noted funding info wasn't going out yet. I have an acceptance there but am dying to hear funding info. Has anyone heard about it?
I was accepted to Marquette's MA program almost a month ago. I got an email telling me to check my application status,etc. However, Marquette is just too expensive for being an unranked school and I don't think that it would be wise for me to go there for an unfunded MA.

I have a friend who was accepted to CUAs theology program last week; however, as usual with CUA, he wasn't given any information about funding/ta-ship etc...as of yet that is. I've heard that they tend to accept many more people than they can actually fund, which is crazy considering how expensive both CUA and DC are!

By chance are you interested in medieval?

Re: Marquette and CUA

ffahog

8 years ago

From Leiter's blog:
"I can report, based on accumulated anecdotes over many years, that some departments are really exceptional for how pleasant they are as places to do graduate study: faculty are engaged, kind, supportive, committed, and professional in their interactions with students. Arizona, North Carolina, MIT, UC Riverside, and U Mass/Amherst"

Which schools are known for being exceptionally unpleasant?
Warning from a current grad student: When I went on prospective visits, one of the things I was most struck by was that at every school, the students vehemently denied the nasty rumors I'd heard about their program (and seemed sincere). I got the impression that rumors about places being hostile towards women, being extremely competitive, and so on were largely based on things that were true 5-10 years ago. It is, of course, worth probing to find out whether the bad things you hear from other students and on the internet accurately represent the program today. But until you have direct confirmation of these things, take them with several grains of salt.

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Unpleasant Grad schools

Anonymous

8 years ago

Missouri

Anonymous

March 8 2009, 22:58:01 UTC 8 years ago

For those waiting on any info from Missouri, I found out today that there is a ranked waitlist that they are working through. Professor Weirich said that the department anticipates moving "substantially" into it, as would be expected. I am about 5 spots down the list, for which he estimated 50/50 odds.
I'm seeking any advice here. From the set: Penn, UCSD, Notre Dame, and Georgetown, which would you pick if your interests were political philosophy, ethics, and legal philosophy?

I keep going around and around, and I can't even seem to roughly rank them, much less pick a no. 1. (Or at least a putative no. 1, pending further in-person discussions.)
UPenn. Ive heard great things about the program/atmosphere overall. and the campus is beautiful.

Re: Paralysis analysis

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Paralysis analysis

Anonymous

8 years ago

Hi all,

I have had conversations with people on 3 different admissions committees (all top PGR schools) and here is my impression of how to apply to grad school:

First, have good enough GRE scores and grades to get you past the first round cut. This means have excellent GREs and grades.

Second, if you make it thru the first round (i.e. get into the top 60 or so applicants) You must have good letters and writing sample. These are the two single most important factors in determining your success.

Getting into phi grad school is extremely competitive and you are competing with a group of undergrads that score the best overall of any major on GREs, so good GREs are not going to do much for you.

If you need to make a decision whether to put more time into getting slightly better GRE scores or doing extra revisions on the writing sample, I think the latter is far more important. However, if your GRE scores are lower than 85% percentile in any area (with the possible exception of quant), you need to work on these.

I don't knw if this is helpful, but I thought I would share.
this is what worked for me:
GRE's: Just try to get above 1350 or so. There is no way you need to get above 85 percentile on the QUANT.

Writing sample.. polish, polish polish polish polish polish and make it clear, clear clear.
It also helps to become friends with the professors who will be writing your recs. (not just the normal teacher/student relationship)
Start your GRE/writing sample the summer before you apply. I had my writing sample finished during the summer and then spent all of fall semester polishing/rewriting it. this really helped

Roundup

Anonymous

March 9 2009, 01:40:56 UTC 8 years ago

So who got offers/WL and from where?

Re: Roundup

Anonymous

March 9 2009, 01:52:45 UTC 8 years ago

So far I have two top-10 offers, two top-20 offers, one top-25 offer, and one top-10 waitlist. I have declined one of the top-20 offers, and I have withdrawn my application from two schools. I have been rejected by two top-ten schools, and expect rejections from two more (because those admitted seem to have already heard). There are still two schools out there that haven't breathed a word, so I don't have any expectations, positive or negative.

Re: Roundup

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Roundup

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Roundup

philgradap979

8 years ago

Re: Roundup

Anonymous

8 years ago

I know it was mentioned that these two schools will be notifying admits this week. I was hoping, though, that someone might have even more specific information.
Good luck with what looks to be the last big week!
UCLA tomorrow. Columbia Thursday.

Re: UCLA Columbia

Anonymous

8 years ago

Tufts

Anonymous

March 9 2009, 06:42:49 UTC 8 years ago

Just received my rejection at Tufts.

Re: Tufts

Anonymous

March 9 2009, 08:10:30 UTC 8 years ago

Via email? or post mail?

Re: Tufts

Anonymous

8 years ago

Re: Tufts

Anonymous

8 years ago

Just received a call from Avery Goldman tonight about being on what sounded like a short waiting list. Anybody with an offer at DePaul, please try to make a decision as soon as you can! Thanks...