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Philosophy 2010

This is for anyone applying to Philosophy graduate programs during the 2009-2010 academic year. Please share acceptances, rejections, wait-list notifications, and so on.

Best of luck to everyone applying!
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UCLA

Anonymous

February 25 2010, 22:15:38 UTC 7 years ago

Who here has heard back from UCLA? I got my call last sunday and was wondering who else got one.
I emailed the department earlier in the week, and they got back to me today. The final meeting of the application committee will be next week and everyone should be notified via email. This seems to fit with the timetable from previous years.

Man, next week is going to be stressful.
Yes, my advisor said they're wrapping things up next week.

Also: just got into UCSD.

UCSD?

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7 years ago

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7 years ago

Received my rejection in the mail today. The form letter said that they were very impressed by my file (obviously not impressed enough, however.) I'd be interested to hear if everyone else received a similar compliment (grasping at straws for any consolation).

By the way, they had six spots for two hundred applicants.
Not trying to be mean, but those form things are almost always the same.

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Anonymous

7 years ago

I heard from a faculty member on the admissions committee that they will be meeting to make final decisions this upcoming Tuesday. I imagine this means we will be hearing from them next week. Just a heads-up!
I'm nervous about this one as it's probably my last shot at a top 50.

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7 years ago

One of the things that I've seen a few times on these boards are people who think that good grades, GRE scores, and letters will get them into graduate school. From what I can tell, after talking to some people who have worked on admissions committees, these usually aren't the things that get people into a grad program. If you have bad grades or a bad GRE score or bad letters, that will get you a rejection. But by and large, it's the writing sample that will get you into a program.

This might explain why lots of people fell like the process is arbitrary. You can have good "stats," those aren't all the important--what matter is the writing sample. Judging the quality of a writing sample is also incredibly subjective. So that would explain a lot of the variance.
"One of the things that I've seen a few times on these boards are people who think that good grades, GRE scores, and letters will get them into graduate school."

Really?


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February 26 2010, 02:29:18 UTC 7 years ago

does someone know what's going on with chicago? Havent been rejected and havent been accepted. wtf.
relax man. just wait a couple more days. you'll get you rejection soon enough. sometimes mail is slow.

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if i have not yet heard from uchicago, does that mean i am rejected from the phd program?
That is the question of the day here on WGI.

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February 26 2010, 05:49:37 UTC 7 years ago

What should a graduate student do to be (I might draw some fire for this word, we'll see) marketable?

Some of us have acceptances; 5+ years down the line we're going to try to be getting jobs, which will (generally speaking) want research abilites in your AOS and teaching abilities that include your AOS and more. Now, if you have a thesis on X, it seems obvious enough that you have license to claim that you can teach X.

But what about the other stuff? One graduate course, and you can claim some teaching ability? Two graduate courses? Or should it really be based on what you've TAd for, or should it be based on courses you've actually been the sole instructor for?

With concerns like this in mind, should you take a balanced set of courses so as to be competent at a lot of stuff (this would only be if courses are judged to matter), or just meet the distribution requirements and make all your other courses related to your thesis (focus on research)?

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 06:03:13 UTC 7 years ago

What you need to do is go to Jobs for Philosophers. Do you like M&E? Oh, well, perhaps you should count how many M&E jobs there were in 2009, no, 2008, no 2007, and see how many of those jobs there have been in comparison to jobs that require teaching applied ethics. In the process of your search, you will see how the number of jobs is shrinking, and this is true across the board.

Wait... maybe you should look at the Chronicle of Higher Ed for an opinion of getting a job in the humanities?

Seriously. You should just start crying now. No one is going to hire you because you put that you were a TA in ethics for professor X, like that really means you deserve the AOC on your CV.

About drawing fire: bang bang bang.

Anonymous

7 years ago

Email from Jonathan Cohen. Further details coming via snail mail with official acceptance letter (no details yet about funding).
what are your stats?

oxford

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 10:10:41 UTC 7 years ago

Should we be hearing back from oxford sometime soon?
The graduate admissions committee is meeting this coming Thursday, from what I've heard, so it shouldn't be too long after that. Funding is a separate question.

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 13:38:29 UTC 7 years ago

Memphis gave out more than one funding offer. I'm fairly certain all 3 offers received funding.

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 14:02:18 UTC 7 years ago

Glad to hear it! It would be really tough to commit to a 5 yr program without SOME funding.

patchchloe

7 years ago

New York City universities are closed today due to inclement weather (CUNY, NYU, Columbia). I don't know about other East Coast institutions, but we should not expect many results from any of them today (except if the person who has to call/email the admits can/will do it from home, which I doubt).
Has anyone heard from Penn State yet? It looks like today could be the day, if the latest blog comment from Christopher Long holds: http://www.personal.psu.edu/cpl2/blogs/lyceum/2010/02/faculty-reviewing-applications.html

Are Continentals across the country holding their collective breath?
Yeah I'm dying over here. I had an interview over a week and a half ago -- and nothing... What the fuck??

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7 years ago

Will A.J. Ayer fans and W.V.O. Quine devotees not fly the friendly (read: fuzzy) skies of Continental Airlines? Preferring perhaps the rigorous skies of Analytic Airways or Logic Launchers or Serious Skyways?

Comments????????? I'm dying to know!!!
Fly whatever skies you want, I don't know how anyone, Continental, Pragmatist, Analytic, or "other" cannot simply adore Quine.
Ok, so if you're a Kantian or a Platonist, or a fan of G.E. Moore, maybe you won't love him - but you've still gotta give the guy props, don't you?
Ayer I could skip - definitely, but not Van.

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Before anyone panics, let me just say I have not been accepted to Oxford yet. However, it's the only offer outstanding that I would consider accepting over Toronto.

Here are the facts...

I'm assuming that if I get into Oxford it will be unfunded. Toronto's is fully funded. I have just enough money that I could go to Oxford and not go into debt to do it - however, I would wipe out all my savings.

I know Oxford is more highly ranked, but I guess waht I'm wondering is whether its higher ranking justifies the expense. Will I have a significantly easier time getting a job after graduating Oxford over Toronto? What would everyone else do?
Since you're referring to getting jobs right after, I assume you're looking at the DPhil at Oxford, rather than the BPhil?

Anyways, what usually comes up in discussions of UK vs USA/Canada is how you get less teaching experience in the UK, and how this might harm your job prospects in North America. However, I just took a look at Oxford's placement record, and they do seem to be sending people to TT jobs over here (Yale, MIT, BU). Maybe the criticism only applies for lower-ranked UK schools.

So, my knee-jerk response was Toronto, but maybe Oxford is better. Unfunded sure is annoying, though.

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Does anyone know how the PHD program is to study 20th century continental philosophy. Is it better to go here for a PHD or go to Tufts first for a masters. I have been accepted to USF for PHD program with no funding. Thanks
No funding! Don't Go. Seriously.

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Just got the call! Accepted with full funding for five years. Euphoric!
Congratulations!! That's awesome!

Re: Notre Dame

Anonymous

7 years ago

If you are under any impression that one must have letters from several well known faculty members, or at least respect the saying that no letters should come from a graduate student--well, one of my letters came from an adjunct and the other came from a graduate student in a non-philosophy (but related) department. And I still got admitted today by Notre Dame anyway (with 11 schools to hear from yet!)! Granted, I considered most of the rest of my dossier pretty strong, but I was told that my lack of letters from well regarded or at least tenured professors would be an almost insuperable obstacle to gaining admissions anywhere. So, all I'm saying is to not let the depressing putdowns/well-intentioned advice here sink your hopes. From what I gather, most of you still have at least a couple more schools to hear from. Good luck to all of you!
If you don't mind my asking, what were your other stats and areas of interest?

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7 years ago

I am just wondering what people think of the specialization ranking on the Leiter report.
I have (thankfully) been accepted to two schools that I really like, one is ranked more than 10 points above the other, however, the lesser overall ranked school has a much higher score in my area of interest, (3.5, 4 versus 3,3). What does one make of this? Both schools are offering me fellowships, and I can't find big reasons to prefer one location over the other.... I like the faculty at both schools...... any suggestions?
I guess there is no reason to be vague. Madison or Syracuse ?
Is anyone with insight into Toronto's decision making process (specifically those who have already been accepted or waitlisted) willing to answer the following questions? a) has your online application status changed?, b) how many are being accepted and are on the waitlist?, c) is there still hope for those who have heard nothing? Thanks.
I have been accepted.
(a)"Under Review"
(b)Don't know for sure. Someone here mentioned 17, and hoping for 9 accepts.
(c)Don't know, sorry. There is a waitslist on tgc from today, so maybe?

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7 years ago

CUNY

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 20:44:30 UTC 7 years ago

CUNY acceptance on TGC. Details anyone?
I'm not the admit, but the previous admit said 18k stipend, if you missed that.
Perhaps I can provide a bit of distraction from the waiting game.

I'm not applying during this cycle, but considering doing so within the near future. I'm 45 now and realize that I would essentially be finishing a PhD in philosophy for my own satisfaction, not because I expect to have some sort of awesome career.

The fairly short version of my bio: I started off in a PhD program in anthropology, almost made it through, but hit a lot of snags (health *and* financial) that kept me from finishing. Then I pretty much had to find work... which included supporting my wife (older than me) while she finished her PhD. She finally got a relevant job in Big Science at 51. No kids. I'm a low-level IT person right now--relatively employable during good times, but no great shakes in bad times. I'm lucky to be working as a contractor at Microsoft for the moment.

Through it all, I never wanted anything other than to be an academic. At this point, even if I could find a way to turn it into a kind of hobby after doing a PhD (e.g. write papers &c while continuing to work outside academia) I could live with that. Of course more would be better, but as said above, I understand the realpolitik of already being more than halfway through my life.

My interests are a little hard to pigeonhole, but a short way of framing them is that while I was still in anthropology, I was getting more interested in the philosophical underpinnings of my particular area than in the area itself. My area was psych anthro, so my interests in philosophy cluster around mind, cog sci, language, and so forth, especially as these tie back into philosophy of social science-type topics. Since anthropology borrows heavily from the kind of stuff touched by continental philosophy, I'm fine with being in dialogue with that--but I always wanted to find ways to ground those tendencies in anthro theory in something that looks a lot more like analytic philosophy. In the LSU thread several pages back, someone mentioned John Protevi--loosely speaking, my goal for a long time was more or less to be Protevi in reverse, i.e. starting with things like cog sci and neuro and reaching over toward stuff like Deleuze and Foucault. That's still an interest but I have acquired more interest in traditional M&E topics as I've gone along. I also have a fairly deep interest in semiotics, although I think there's a fair amount of junk that appropriates that mantle.

(Oh, and I understand that I'd have to start with an MA-only program, since I have close to zero track record in philosophy other than my own reading.)

Anyway. I feel kind of all--well, partly--dressed up with no place to go. Even if I wasn't pretty old, still in debt, et cetera, it's still not even clear to me where would be a good place for me to try to get my academic life restarted. Is my best bet at this point going to be trying to work on my own somehow? My impression is that it's really hard to get much attention for your work if you're outside the academic system, not to mention the fact that you need that community to keep you on track and out of intellectual tarpits. But fundamentally, this is just a dream that has never let go. The idea that I might never be able to finish is a bitter prospect. I don't want to be the intellectual equivalent of that guy from high school who can't get over not being the star quarterback anymore, but then again my desires are what they are.

I'd love to hear from anyone who can weigh in on any of the above matters, especially from people over 40 who are involved in the current application cycle. What are your stories? How does being older affect what you want to study, what you expect to do with the degree when it's done, and so forth?

Thanks in advance.
I get the impressions most people here are pretty young (I am, too). If you go to the grad cafe, there are lots of successful older folks. One of them has a blog (http://unlikelygrad.wordpress.com/). There's a couple that had kids, raised em, and applied (and got into) PhD programs this season. I'd advise talking to them.

Now, as for philosophy and your particular situation... yeah, probably an MA first, or at least several courses in philosophy as a special student. You could shoot for a PhD program or two, though: if you don't need to rely on getting an academic job, you could go for unranked places that still suit your interests and so on. I don't think this would be especially difficult.

Can your wife fully financially support you, and is she willing to? That's the main thing here. You're going to be (probably) paying for an MA, and getting peanuts for a PhD stipend, and you're already in debt.

UNC!

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 21:39:15 UTC 7 years ago

UNC oh where oh where is my rejection!?
egad, there are more rejections up. I haven't gotten one either. When did the new ones go up? My heart skips a beat every time I get an email--"please let it be a Postema, and not a Sayre-McCord..."

MIT

Anonymous

February 26 2010, 21:47:44 UTC 7 years ago

Rejected by snail mail. Finally heard something from someone. Might have been nice to hear better news though.

Re: MIT

Anonymous

February 27 2010, 03:14:04 UTC 7 years ago

Same here (rejected via post). Just posted it at the Cafe.