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Philosophy 2010

This is for anyone applying to Philosophy graduate programs during the 2009-2010 academic year. Please share acceptances, rejections, wait-list notifications, and so on.

Best of luck to everyone applying!
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Does anyone know how seriously Oxford takes their request for two shorter writing samples rather than one long one? I'd much rather submit the same sample I send everywhere else than rework two shorter papers just for this application.
Perhaps this is a bit too simplistic of an answer, but you could submit a summarized "chapter" of the longer paper and count it as a single sample.

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7 years ago

I'm looking at 4 year "integrated PhD" (2 year MPhil+2 year DPhil) at Warwick and Essex. Any info on those? What are the acceptance rates for these programs?
I would as well, like to know if anyone has any opinions on the MSc programs like Edinburgh or elsewhere in the UK. Does this improve one's chances of PhD acceptance in the US? Or would it be more beneficial to attend a US MA program? I have (some) connection to Edinburgh (my professor got his PhD there)-however, I don't want this to affect my chances of coming back to the US afterward.

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Hey Sarah. I applied last year, and I'm reapplying this year.

If you have the money/time, I would add a couple more mid-tier or lower tier schools to your list. I'm not saying that you won't get into the better schools on your list, but it's not unheard of for a good applicant to get shut out when only applying to 8 or 9 schools (happened to me last year!).

Also, have you talked to the director of admissions in your department about applying to Arizona? It's my understanding that schools typically don't want applicants from their undergrad program.

Good luck!

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hi everyone!

I'm applying to philosophy PhD programs this year and am happy to find some people going through the same thing, it's been intimidating doing it alone!

here are my stats:

a) GPA: 3.64
b) Philosophy GPA: 3.89
c) GRE: 650V 640Q (1290) 5.5AW
d) BA Phil & Psych (double major)
*areas of focus: epistemology, metaphysics, phil mind
*strong letters of rec
*writing sample a philosophy of mind writing sample

and school choices (i have no 'top pick' or favored school, I'd be thrilled to be accepted anywhere, graduate level research is my goal and is intrinsically motivating to me!)

1)NYU
2)CUNY
3)Cornell
4)Rutgers
5)University of Mass
6)University of Arizona
7)Berkeley
8)UC Riverside
9)University of Maryland
(and possibly...University of Syracuse, still debating)

any advice or insight from people who have been through the process before?
is everyone as excited to send out their applications as I am, mostly I just want the whole process to be OVER! =)
With the caveat of not having read your writing sample, which can do wonders for any application if it is superb enough, I'll say the following:

Except for UC Riverside, those schools mentioned are all extreme long shots given your stats. I would strongly advise you to find a handful of middle ranked schools you would be happy to attend, should you find yourself rejected from those schools listed. Im not going to tell you not to apply to your dream schools, but I will say that they are indeed dream schools, and in all honestly, I dont think you would be smart to bet everything on a long shot...

If you would be happy with nothing but the schools you listed, I would strongly advise you to apply to a strong terminal MA program. If you can get close to straight A's at the MA level, and increase your GRE scores to at least 1350, then you might a good shot at some of the elite schools you listed.

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November 2 2009, 03:44:08 UTC 8 years ago

Well, since a few others seem to be doing it, here I am:

3.9 GPA, 770 V, 650 Q. Mind & Language & Cognitive Science (philosophy of).

PhD: OSU, Bloomington, Stanford, Arizona, Rutgers, UPenn, Northwestern, Harvard, MIT, Amherst, College Park, Toronto, Ann Arbor, Cornell, CUNY, Washington (St.Louis), UWO. Possibly also Boulder.

MA: Tufts, Brandeis, Edinburgh, couple others I haven't quite decided on.

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November 3 2009, 01:11:06 UTC 8 years ago

Depending on your interest, you may wish to look into Johns Hopkins, which does a lot of collaborative work between philosophy (Gross) and cognitive science (Smolensky, Legendre, Landau, McCloskey).

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A prof recommended a department to me that I hadn't originally intended to apply to. My writing sample's title looks something like "X, and details about X". The main prof at the institution in question who studies what I study recently wrote a book essentially titled "X is useless". Guess I can't really apply there?
Just change the title of your writing sample.

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To date we've had a number of posts asking various questions. Now that application season is approaching, it'd be a good idea for those who want to post regularly to sign up with Livejournal and have a user id. Anonymous posting will be allowed, as it is now; this is really just an issue of helping people keep track of one another once everyone starts posting acceptances, wait-lists, etc. Again, just a recommendation. If you're shy, feel free to keep posting without a login id. :)

Also, once you've acquired a user name, it'd be good to have an initial post with limited biographical info. Several people have done this already. In the interest of doing this, let me disclose a little about myself. I am not applying. I am already in a Ph.D. program. I started this year's post so that we could have an unmoderated discussion area like there has been each year in the past. I found whogotin very helpful when I applied to grad school, so hopefully you all will too.

Best of luck!
My grades are good, scores are decent, and I think I have good LOR writers lined up.

My tuition refund is paying for my applications, so I've decided to apply to a wide range and cast a large net. I have a few different (well, three distinct but related) paths ahead of me, so my plan is to go all in and let the chips fall where they may.

My interests are in the history and philosophy of science, epistemology and ethics.

I'm applying to these schools, they're not in any particular order (programs outside of philosophy indicated in brackets):

1. U Minnesota (History of Science)
2. Western Michigan
3. Northern Illinois
4. Indiana, Bloomington (Hist/Phil of Science)
5. U Maryland
6. U Colorado, Boulder
7. U New Mexico
8. U Binghamton
9. Tufts
10. Texas Tech
11. Texas A&M
12. Penn State
13. Temple
14. Michigan State
15. U Wisconsin
16. Towson (English)
17. MIT (Science Writing)
18. Rutgers (Communications)

I have a good mix of MA and PhD programs (about half and half) that I'm applying to, plus the handful at the end that are clearly outside of my declared interests, but are tertiary and more considered fall-back plans should I be shut out of philosophy this go-around.

Oh, and my stats:

GPA (overall): 3.56, (philosophy): 3.8, (minors): 3.75 and 3.8

590/670/5.0

Like I said, decent scores, but I'm a bit disappointed and was expecting them to be somewhat higher. If SAT scores are any indication then it should have been higher. I'm considering retaking them in case these scores are a fluke - I drastically underestimated the length of the bus ride to the testing facility and ended up testing on an empty stomach late in the afternoon. There were distinct moments when I started getting hunger pangs and going dizzy, so I would hope that with a decent breakfast and a cup of coffee I would do better. But maybe that's just wishful thinking? I've culled most of the top programs from my list and compensated by applying to more MAs and more lower ranked PhD programs as a result of these not so stellar test scores. Am I over reacting or is a 1260 as horribly mediocre as I am making it out to be? Will an increase in 50 or 100 points really make much of a difference, or should I spend my time on my writing samples and SOP?

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Pitt HPS

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I'm curious about the "statement of career objectives" that HPS asks for (rather than a statement of purpose). Is it something very different? Or do I simply say that my career objectives are researching XYZ at a phil/hps department, and make it fairly similar to an SOP?

"Your statement of career objectives should be added to the online application in the 'additional information' section. Please tell us anything you think may be relevant to our decision on your application. "

http://www.pitt.edu/~hpsdept/grad/grad_admissions.html
I sent them the same statement of purpose I sent to other programs. I got in. Don't fret about it.

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That's a good, smart list. Interests?
Unlike the American programs that ask for a statement of purpose, UK programs ask for a research proposal. Could someone clarify some key differences between the two? There are lots of suggestions available online for writing a statement of purpose, but I haven't found a helpful guide or sample for writing a research proposal.
I have been posting, but I thought I would introduce myself with an actual username.

B.A. in Philosophy with Highest Distinction from prestigious state school
3.98 Overall, 3.98 Philosophy
650V, 740Q, 6.0AW
Interests: Metaethics, Ancient Philosophy, Action
Writing Sample: Interpretive paper on Plato

The List (in no particular order):
Arizona
Chicago
Pennsylvania
Princeton
Ohio State
Northwestern
Washington, Seattle
Yale
Florida State
Miami
Pittsburgh
Boston University
Cornell
Georgetown
Washington University, St. Louis

I have already been accepted to Georgetown, as I deferred admission from last year. I do have to go through the whole application review process again for funding, though.

Good luck to everyone. If anyone spots a possible school I missed, let me know, but note that the lack of MA programs was intentional.
I can't believe the detail you are giving about yourself. I'm concerned that it is someone posing as you as an act of sabotage.

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I find this piece of advice should be obvious, but many don't think about it. If you are asking asking professors who are writing you letters about your chances for getting into programs, many of them might not be able to give you an appropriate realistic judgment. They have worked with you, know what you are capable of, and thus will have a hard time telling your their opinion only based on what graduate schools will see.

Last year, when I was applying the only professor who gave me a realistic view (who I worked with) was one who had recently worked on admissions at a top 10 program. Other professors were very enthusiastic, but his (less enthusiastic) predictions turned out to be the correct predictions.

So, if you want realistic predictions, ask a professor who doesn't know you that well, particularly one who has previously worked on admissions, and give them your stats. This is the only sensible way to get a rough, yet realistic perspective on your chances.
You're probably right about that sort of person having a better perspective.

However, I think you weren't speaking carefully when you said to give that person your stats- that person should get your stats and your writing sample.

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Must one send transcripts from every place? For instance, from a professional masters program unrelated to philosophy (one that probably makes me seem a little like a wierdo for having it in my background)?
I took courses at two universities when I was in high school. Every school I applied to except Princeton insisted on having my transcripts from them...even though they were nonphilosophy courses I took when I was 14-16.

I'm sure the departments don't give a damn about the unrelated transcripts. But the graduate schools for some reason want them.

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Stats V-780/750/4.5; Undegrad GPA 3.7 (4.0 Phil) Grad GPA 3.97

Assuming a thoroughly adequate writing sample and letters, would a school at the bottom of Leiter's list be a "safe bet" for a candidate with my stats? This raises the further question, is there even such a thing as a safe bet (assuming that no one is submitting a writing sample of true genious, whatever that may mean)?



One thing I learned from last year is that there are no "safety" programs among the ranked. For instance, I had more success getting into programs or onto waitlists in the top 20 than I did in those schools listed from 30 on down. From what I could tell last year with other applicants from my school and from WGI 2009, I was not the only one to whom this happened. There's just no predicting how one's admissions cycle will turn out.

A few anecdotes: A friend of mine with decent stats was accepted at Pittsburgh but rejected everywhere else (I believe he applied to 10 programs, some of which where ranked in the Leiter 40's and 30's). I am at a top 15 program now, yet I was rejected first-round from Boston University, Georgetown, and Wash U STL. Neither of us had dazzling stats.

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By 'thoroughly adequate' writing sample I mean a fairly good one, same with the letters. It seems that the moral of this story, beyond the fact that people on this site can be very testy, is that if one has generally good stats, with no strange application quirks (like being a psych. major for instance), then there is no reason to expect that lower ranked schools will intentionally ignore your application because you are somehow overqualified. At the same time, there is really nothing like a sure thing.