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Philosophy 2010

This is for anyone applying to Philosophy graduate programs during the 2009-2010 academic year. Please share acceptances, rejections, wait-list notifications, and so on.

Best of luck to everyone applying!
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UC Santa Barbara
Ohio State
U of Southern Cal

Anyone in a similar situation elsewhere?

This is from a March 5th response to my email inquiry about when to expect to hear from UCSB:

"Our faculty have begun to make admission and financial support decisions and expect to complete them within the next two or three weeks. You can expect to hear from our Graduate Division about admission, and from us about everything else within the next three weeks or so."



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Anonymous

March 7 2010, 02:25:36 UTC 6 years ago

Which schools do you think have the best overall placement records? With all the debate about the correlation between PGR rank and placement, we could maybe do a little informal inquiry into this question on our own. Do you know a school that has a surprisingly impressive placement record relative to its rank?
University of Memphis has had an 90-100% placement in recent years in some really good schools too. They didn't even make the PGR listing

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Rejection and waitlist notifications are starting to trickle in. Does anyone happen to know if acceptances have already been sent? I'd assume that they'd extend offers either via phone or e-mail, but no one has mentioned receiving one. Does this mean that acceptances are coming through snail mail with this round of recent notifications? Or are acceptance decisions still in the works? If anyone has any insight, I'd be very thankful. Rice is one of the last places I still have a chance of acceptance.
I should mention one last thing. Someone posted that he or she received a rejectino via e-mail on the 27th. If the poster reads this, could he or she confirm that it was indeed a rejection and not an acceptance. It seems strange that Rice would send out rejections via e-mail a week ago and then send rejection letters in the mail. If they did send out rejections via e-mail, I'd have expected more people to have received them then and posted them on TGC. Thanks
While we're all waiting for results, I have a serious philosophical question for us to ponder.

How many continental philosophers does it take to change a lightbulb?

Anonymous

March 7 2010, 14:10:01 UTC 6 years ago

One to do it and another to quote Derrida on the undecidability of doing it
Has anyone ever heard of an offer admission to a PhD program being rescinded? If so, for what reasons?
Nope - never heard of it. I think you'd either have to flunk all of your spring semester classes, or go to jail or something. Once you're in, you're in.
So go ahead and decline those other offers, you're fine.

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6 years ago

God, for all of Leiter's lip service to Marx, his contribution to philosophy's hyperprofessionalism just might have made this the most booshie group of young philosophers yet. I'm tired of the whining that goes on here: "OH MY GOD IF I'M NOT IN THE TOP FIVE WILL I NOT HAVE JOB SECURITY FOREVER AND EVER?!"
God, fuck off. Anyone who goes into philosophy without being concerned about job prospects is a bloody idiot, and the best way to get a TT job, ceteris paribus, is to go to a top ranked Leiter school. Your irritation should be directed at an economy and a system of higher education that no longer values the humanities.

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March 7 2010, 07:55:23 UTC 6 years ago

I know this is way too much to ask for on an anonymous internet forum dedicated to the discussion of an extremely stressful process, but do you guys think we could maybe dial the hostility back a notch? Jesus.

(And yes, I know this comment will most likely garner some hostile responses.)
Right on! Your worry about subsequent backlash made me laugh. But so does the sound of "I hate a lot of you," which sounds like it was taken straight from engrish.com.
Would you go into a fully funded MA program and reapply to PHD programs in 2 years or go to an unfunded PHD program?
Rule number 1: Unless you are independently wealthy, do not go into debt to attend philosophy graduate school.

Go to the MA.

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I'll be finishing my BA next year and have been following the discussions to get a head start on applications next year, I'm thinking of applying for the B.Phil at Oxford and was wondering if those who were accepted/rejected this year could post their stats so I can know whether or not it'd be worth it to apply.

Also - to those who applied, did you apply for any external awards? If so, which ones?

Thanks!
-prospective grad
I got in for the BPhil (no word on funding yet, bear in mind). Not sure if my stats will be relevant to you, but my undergraduate degree (which includes philosophy) is from Oxford, and is a fairly solid First. My GRE (which I took to apply to US schools) is 1500-ish, and my letter writers are all from the Philosophy Faculty here.

To be honest I probably won't end up going to Oxford for postgrad - I have some decent offers from the US, still don't know if I have funding, and most importantly I feel like I have lived here too long - but it's a great place to do philosophy. Let me know if there's anything more.
Can I just say that "I Hate A Lot Of You + Fuck Brian Leiter" is the BEST subject title EVER !!!!!

Made my day.
Thanks
It made mine too! And no offense to everyone on here, but I sincerely think that most people in philosophy are pretentious, so it shouldn't be a shocking accusation. And I say this while wearing my nerd-goggle glasses, a stupid scarf around my neck, and a copy of Epistemic Injustice in my book bag. But, in my defense, there's also a couple of Batman folders...

New Thread?

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March 7 2010, 19:21:46 UTC 6 years ago

Are we going to run out of space at 5000 comments? If yes, does anyone know how to start a new thread?

I'm ignorant to the ways of LiveJournal.
I think the limit was raised to 10K. So we're good.
So I have an open question for everyone:

Can people in PhD programs have kids? My fiance is an engineer and he has no idea why that would be possibly difficult. I've applied and if all goes well, we will go through with plans to get married. But, I'm concerned about the possibility of making him wait 6+ years after to have children.

Do you guys know people who have been parents and graduate students?

Yes, but in most cases the graduate students became parents in the second half of their PhD program.It seems easier to do once much of the classwork is complete.

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Michigan

Anonymous

March 7 2010, 23:40:23 UTC 6 years ago

Haven't heard anything; nor has a decision been posted on my UM Friend account.

Who else is with me?

And who, of you, is hoping that everyone so far admitted and WL'd declines really quickly so we're reconsidered? :-)

However, it is nice to be somewhere you're wanted, so maybe I should not wish for such alleged luck.
In what situations is it wrong to use a department's funds to visit? For example, you may be very interested in a department that suits your interests but is significantly lower ranked than another department to which you've been admitted. Said highly ranked department is also a great match for your interests. Surely, there are good reasons (e.g. networking, exposure to new work, exposure to different approaches, talking philosophy with different people) for visiting departments whose offers you ultimately decline, but the purpose of the visits I have in mind is, of course, to help discern whether you should enroll in their program. In virtue of the fact that you may come based on your experience seems to be the reason for which departments shell out money for prospectives' visits. If you know, prior to arranging for your visit, that no matter what your experience is (constraining possibilities to reasonable nomological possibilities) at your impending visit, is it wrong to go anyway? Do faculty expect people to visit anyway in this situation? If so, I don't think that stands as a defense of the action if it is independently problematic. Just because you expect to get a fly in the ointment doesn't mean there's no fly in the ointment.

To be clear, my question is: Should you or shouldn't you visit if you are near certain you will decline?
Apologies in advance for not actually responding to your question, but, right or wrong, visiting a school that you don't want to attend seems like a huge waste of time. Don't you have more important things to do?

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UCL

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March 8 2010, 00:58:09 UTC 6 years ago

To the UCL acceptances: were you offered any funding packages? If so, are you home/EU student or an international?

I'm still waiting to hear news but it looks like I shouldn't hold my breath.
In my spare time I've been speculating pretty wildly about the likelihood of getting off a particular waitlist, trying to assign some sort of numbers to this. (I find the numbers reassuring, even if they're pretty groundless.). But it would help to know just how many have been accepted and/or waitlisted at the various schools. So let's pool our knowledge. If you know how many people were accepted at a particular program, make a quick post like:

1. Princeton- 17 accepted. No waitlist.
USC - 22 accepted

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Well, as it is sunday and that means it is useless to check my mailbox, maybe people would like to comment on the following.

When you receive phone calls from prospective schools, to which you have been admitted, is it more flattering/reassuring, or just annoying? Maybe it is because my lame job is telemarketing, but sometimes when a particular ad comm guy calls me, I feel like he is selling Amway, and not just trying to help me understand the virtues of the school. I should just decline the offer, because it is my second choice of my two accepts, but I don't want to act until I know of my status at a school I really love where I am waitlisted. He has asked me for specifics of the other offers I have received too, which seems a little pushy...
If he is asking you about the specifics of your other offers it might mean he is willing to negotiate a bit. I would take this as a good sign. On the other hand, if you have an offer from another school in which this guy thinks his department can't compete with, then he might be irritated if he thinks you're just sitting on his offer.

So, I have been admitted to a decent school. But I am on the waitlist at a much more favorable school. I know there is a pretty decent wait list at the school that I am admitted at, but I do not want to decline or accept it yet, given the possibility that I might get off the wait list. But, I bet there are people who are waiting to get off the waitlist at schools like Cornell and Brown, and will then decline the offer where I am waitlisted. But the people who are accepted at Cornell and Brown are waiting to get off the waitlist at Yale and MIT. And the MIT and Yale accepts will not reject their offers untill they get off the waitlist at Princeton. And, so I guess I am hoping that some Princeton and NYU accepts decide to reject which will trickle down to me getting off the waitlist. I think that is how it works :)
Ugh, the best program I got accepted to has an April 1st deadline - I dread accepting their offer and then getting the call that I've been pulled off the wait list at one of the better schools I applied to. I think that would be worse than just getting rejected.

NYU

Anonymous

March 8 2010, 04:21:14 UTC 6 years ago

NYU acceptance was me. Pryor emailed me about 15 minutes ago, says we will talk on the phone soon. Um, thrilled!

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March 8 2010, 04:25:53 UTC 6 years ago

Congrats. Any other information you can share?

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Dillemma

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March 8 2010, 06:53:56 UTC 6 years ago

I have two acceptances to two different programs that differ negligibly in terms of PGR rank. One is a terminal MA and one is a PhD program. They are both respectably ranked - they are each in the top 20, but I'm not talking about NYU or UC Berkeley or anything here. I don't want to go through applying for a PhD again unless going to the terminal MA will significantly increase my chances of getting into a better school next time around - I don't see the point. Is a terminal MA likely to help me in this regard, or should I just go for the PhD? I know the entire point of a terminal MA is to get you into a better PhD program, but the top schools are so insanely competitive that I kind of wonder whether a terminal MA alone would be woefully insufficient. I guess I suspect that the sort of people who get into the best schools are sort of overachieving super-candidates that I could never compete with?

(And yes, I know there are tons of other factors way more important than rank when it comes to program choice, but in this case they do not lead me to strongly favor one program or another, so I am asking about this.)
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
Accept the offer to the PhD program.

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March 8 2010, 13:27:38 UTC 6 years ago

I think it's a little rash to decline a top program without visiting.

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March 8 2010, 13:28:09 UTC 6 years ago

whoops, posted in wrong spot
I made a part 2 whenever yall want to migrate. I'm not sure what the limit on comments is.

http://community.livejournal.com/who_got_in/101879.html

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March 8 2010, 13:53:13 UTC 6 years ago

We broke 5000, so it looks like we don't have to move.

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6 years ago

Just declined a funded offer to FSU.

Hope this helps someone.

NYU

Anonymous

March 8 2010, 15:45:24 UTC 6 years ago

- What about funding?
- Where were you admitted?
- When, and how, should we expect rejections?
- Why did Pryor email on a Sunday night???
- You must be declining less outstanding offers, which ones?
- In other words, am I the only one to be paranoid and have doubts about these posts (given that both TGC and WGI have gone so crazy)?

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March 8 2010, 16:02:45 UTC 6 years ago

On TGC, 3 of 4 posts used "excited."

But I imagine that it must be exciting...

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Who's left?

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March 8 2010, 17:33:00 UTC 6 years ago

Of the top 20 only Columbia hasn't made offers, I think.

Where else are you waiting for?
I am waiting for Maryland and Johns Hopkins and Boston University.
I'm waiting for the MA at UW-Milwaukee.

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