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Philosophy 2010

This is for anyone applying to Philosophy graduate programs during the 2009-2010 academic year. Please share acceptances, rejections, wait-list notifications, and so on.

Best of luck to everyone applying!
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Syracuse

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 06:29:38 UTC 6 years ago

If you're planning on declining a Syracuse offer PLEASE do so soon. I'm waitlisted and have 2 other offers but I would much rather take the Syracuse offer if I get off the waitlist. Thanks in advance!
There is a very good chance that I will be declining my offer from Syracuse. Before I can be certain, though, I need to visit a couple other schools where I have been offered admission. If I do end up declining, and the chances are that I will, I will do so around the end of March.

Re: Syracuse

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: Syracuse

Anonymous

6 years ago

NSSR

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 08:28:00 UTC 6 years ago

Can anyone confirm the 'accepted via phone' posts on TGC?
It looks like there are 2, in addition to the "6 years funding" hoax (still think it's fake!)
Is anyone out there planning to decline at Wisconsin or OSU?
I declined a fellowship offer from Wisconsin on Thursday-- I hope it helps!

Re: Declining Wisconsin or OSU?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Brandeis?

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 12:36:41 UTC 6 years ago

Does anyone have any idea when we can expect decisions for the master's program at Brandeis? It seems like the "soft" deadline for funding priority is on Monday, though they seem to have begun with their application review on January 15th. Has anyone heard anything? There aren't any posts up on TGC yet. Last year, there were acceptances before their "soft" deadline of April 1st. So does anyone know what's the deal?

Also, does anyone know what the acceptance rate was last year?
I have also heard nothing from Brandeis. But, on TGC all of their action seemed really, really late in relation to other programs. So yea...sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but I'm really not worried. Probably won't hear til late March.

Re: Brandeis?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: Brandeis?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Anyone heard from Southern Illinois University?
Not a peep...

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 15:56:39 UTC 6 years ago

I'm a sophomore at a small liberal arts college who is pretty certain he wants to attend graduate school in philosophy. What are some things all those of you who have applied to PhD programs in the past would recommend your sophomore-in-college-aged self do in order to prepare for the application process?

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 16:10:38 UTC 6 years ago

"Don't try."

-Charles Bukowski

Anonymous

6 years ago

Value

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 16:42:37 UTC 6 years ago

Application fees: $1200
GRE prep materials, test and scores: $500
Transcripts: $150
Postage: $80

Getting into just one program, which also happens to be one of your dream schools: Priceless

Re: Value

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 16:50:11 UTC 6 years ago

gratz

Which school?

BU

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 17:35:19 UTC 6 years ago

Anyone want to claim the BU acceptance on TGC? Anyone else heard from BU?

Re: BU

Anonymous

March 13 2010, 18:05:00 UTC 6 years ago

Either it's fake or I have been lied to by the department.
How weird is Columbia's rejection system! It's really like a reality show, trying to find out who will make it to the end. I'm still alive. But apparently, at least in WGI we are still 6 left. It would be too weird that we all six are the accepted. So... who's gonna make it?

Wanna count again?

ONE
i mean, i totally empathize with your nervous energy, but we just counted a few hours ago, and there haven't been any new TGC columbia rejections since we did. rutgers did things the same way, and i made the mistake of getting geared up after i survived the first two rounds of rejections. i'm trying to avoid making that same mistake again-- if they were done making cuts, they'd have notified those accepted.

but, for the love of god, they're taking way too long.

Re: Columbia Survivors

Anonymous

6 years ago

MA program. And hope for better luck next time around. Otherwise, go to law school.

I know you'd like to think you could be happy teaching a 4/4 load of courses like Critical Thinking and Business Ethics at West Festering Shithole Community College, but you'd be very, very wrong about that. Seriously, stop being that romantic who thinks that any philosophy job is a good job. Your future self doesn't want to have to kick your ass.
Yawn. We've talked about this so many times before (you're wrong) that this has to be a troll.
Just looking to see if any of the 17 other Rice wait-listers are lurking around here. I would like to get to know you all, to build trust and solidarity between us, and to eat you by April 15th so I can have your spot.
17? I was told there are 15 of us...

Re: Rice Waitlist

Anonymous

6 years ago

I know, for many, this topic may be a tired one. Yet I wanted to bring up one point that I haven't seen discussed much. The PGR comes out every couple of years. A department can considerably change rank over that time, for (what I hope to be) obvious reasons. To name a few notable changes of rank:

From 2002-2009:

(+) 1) Miami went from 46 to 35
(+) 2)Yale went from 16 to 8
(-) 3)Columbia went from 7 to 13
(+) 4)CUNY went from 25 to 15
(+) 5)USC went from 46 to 19!!
(-) 6) UT Austin went from 14 to 20
(-) 7) UC Davis went from 24 to 38

So yes, NYU and other top programs consistently dominate (and congrats to those who have been accepted!), but you have to keep in mind that the ranking of your department ("I got into a top ten!") can change dramatically during the years you will be working towards your PhD. It is a safe guess that we will see more major faculty shifts and fluctuations in department ranking in these poor economic times. The report may have guided where you chose to apply, but, as others have commented, need not be a primary factor in assessing where you ought accept.

Personally, two of my letter writers speculated to me certain programs that they expect to be on the rise, with considerable gain by the next report. They suggested using these schools as my "safeties" since they will be somewhat easier to get into now than 3 or 4 years from now. So think about it, it's pretty clear what departments have been amassing spectacular staff and building up their program.
Out of curiosity, what programs do your letter writers (or you) think are on the rise?

Re: Even more thoughts on the PGR

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: Even more thoughts on the PGR

Anonymous

6 years ago

I got waitlisted at UIUC on 3/1. At the time, I emailed the grad director to say thanks and ask if he could provide any additional information (length of waitlist, my place on said list, etc.) He said he couldn't offer any more details but that he'd be sure to keep me abreast of any changes. So my question for all of you is: how soon is too soon to send a follow up email to inquire whether there has been any changes in my status?

Tomorrow will be two weeks, which is plenty of time. However, rather than "Where am I on the list?" I would suggest something more along the lines of "Dear professor X, I just wanted to let you know that I am still very interested in the program at University Y." and so on.

Re: How soon is too soon?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Just got the letter from Chicago. Haven't physically seen it (out of town) so I can't tell you exactly what's on it. No funding (obvi). Would definitely like some advice on how to handle this. Blanked on PhD applications (so either way this is at least *some* encouragement) but have a few apps out to MA programs that I haven't heard back from yet. I know lots of people see this MAPH thing as a cash cow and all that and I'm particularly worried that if I went, it wouldn't really help me anywhere except maybe Chicago for next time around. Thoughts?
I'm in your position. wish there was a good answer to this.

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

flamingjune07

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: In at MAPH

parapraxis21

6 years ago

Since most schools have made offers, I thought I'd share my stats and results. Hopefully it will help next year's applicants get a sense for their chances; some of you from this year's cycle may find it interesting as well. I know that I am interesting to hear about other people's results and stats. Feel free to share your own stats and results, too.

Unranked state school
3.2 overall GPA, 3.8 major GPA
660V, 690Q, 6AW
Four letters of recommendation (one being an outside letter from someone on the faculty at Oxford)
Writing Sample: "Investigating Conscious Experience from the First-Person Perspective" (I'd be willing to share details about my sample if anyone is at all interested in hearing them)

Rejected:
Berkeley
Boston College
UChicago (PhD)
Columbia
Georgetown
Harvard
Northwestern
Oxford(BPhil)
Riverside
Stanford

Accepted
GSU
UChicago(MAPH)
Rice

Waiting:
Boston University (Still haven't heard anything)

The obvious thing to say about my results is that I overreached. I had no idea how selective some of these places truly are. For instance, BC had four spots available but received upwards of 250 applications; Stanford had six spots with over 200 applicants; Riverside had somewhere around ten spots with close to 300 applicants. Now, even though I did overreach, I was still lucky to snag three quality offers. I'm relieved because with a little less luck, I could very easily have been shut-out. My advice to future applicants, then, is to shoot high as I did just because you may get lucky, but make sure to still apply to a fair number of "safety" schools, which is something I (unwisely) didn't do.

The other thing to take away here, and this is something that has been widely noted, but is still worth mentioning again, is that the writing sample is very important. I'm sure my school pedigree and GPA hurt my chances of acceptance significantly at a lot of places; in fact, I don't doubt that my file was tossed at some places before my writing sample was even read. However, at the schools where it was read, it clearly helped me close the competitive advantage that other applicants had due to their higher GPA, better GRE scores, and prestigious undergrad pedigree.
Any idea which offer you'll accept?

Re: My Stats and Results

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: My Stats and Results

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: My Stats and Results

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: My Stats and Results

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: My Stats and Results

Anonymous

6 years ago

the TGC post is mine. i'm incredibly excited to be ending this process on a high note.
Congrats

Re: in at Columbia!

Anonymous

6 years ago

For those of you wondering what the bloody is going on at Davis you might want to log in to your application and check your status. I should note that I never received the aforementioned email, mentioned in previous posts, that statuses would be available Monday after 8pm.
I was the one who posted earlier about receiving the email you mentioned. I just logged into my Davis app and nothing has changed. Did your status change on the "track status" part of the app? Was a "Deny Reason" listed?

It would be weird if only certain rejected students got a "heads up" email. Maybe this means I'm not rejected. I guess I'll just have to wait until Monday and try not to get my hopes up.

Re: Out at Davis!

Anonymous

6 years ago

WTF

Is this true?

If so, uh....why go to ND?



Where did you hear this?
there are probably a great many people on this forum that have been totally shut out this year (like myself: 0-11).

if it's any consolation, i can offer up my failure vs. stats, which might shed light on the ABSURD competitiveness of our desired profession. (though my motives are in part selfish. it is cathartic to public disclose such information).

i applied to 11 programs this year. all leiter top 20. (i was advised to do this, so don't think me a megalomaniac. i wish i had know better!)

i spent my first 2 year of UG at Tufts, with a perfect GPA. i transferred to Harvard where i finished my degree, with almost as a high GPA. my GRE scores were 1500+. i had 4 letter writers, 3 of whom are *famous* philosophers, the 4th is up and coming (all assured me they wrote strong letters). my writing sample started as a paper i wrote for a graduate seminar at harvard, for which i received an A. i was later invited to a national phil conference because of that paper. i spent 4 months revising it with the help of old profs and very smart phil-savy friends, before i submitted it as my writing sample.

i was rejected (no waitlists) from every school to which i applied. my former advisor at harvard told that my application was "unquestionably strong" but landed in the "bottom of the top 15%" of harvard's applicant pool (and he wrote me a rec!).

so to those fellow demoralized souls. i have no idea what it takes to get admitted where you want, but i think it takes a whole lot more than just a UG. i should add my good friend, who is demonstrably smarter and a better philosopher than myself (went to harvard, had a better GPA, etc) is looking at a total shut out too.

so to those who came out on top of all of this, brav-fucking-vo. you girls/guys are fucking MacGuyver/Davidsons. to those who didn't, i feel your pain, let's all start a band.

B
If everything in this post is true, then you have fucking terrible luck. I know several people with weaker dossiers than you who managed to get in to at least one top 20 program. Try again next year, maybe? The admissions process can be extremely random, and it's certainly very competitive, but you basically paint yourself as the perfect applicant in every respect. You should be able to get in.

Brown

Anonymous

March 14 2010, 06:07:31 UTC 6 years ago

I've declined an offer at Brown. I hope this helps someone on the wait-list.

Re: Brown

Anonymous

March 16 2010, 05:27:13 UTC 6 years ago

Mind if I ask where else you were admitted that made you decline?

Cruel

Anonymous

March 14 2010, 07:06:47 UTC 6 years ago

Just got an email from UMD's application system saying that my decision status is now available online, blah blah. I log in to view the rejection and am told that the server is offline for maintenance!

Re: Cruel

Anonymous

March 14 2010, 07:20:27 UTC 6 years ago

Haha. Me too! I'm expecting a rejection anyway, so no biggie.
(Long time listener, first time caller.)

I want to direct the WGI Philosophy community's attention over here: http://www.tfaforms.com/146985

What is it?

* It's a poll asking you for your profile (GPA, GRE scores, etc) and your results (admissions, w/lists, rejections) thus far.

* It is not very fine-grained, so 1) it should not take more than 15 min of your time to complete, and 2) it should not be a threat to your privacy. (FYI, the poll logs the IP address of each submission, but that's not a big deal, obv.)

What happens next?

* Once the submissions begin to dry up (I'm hoping for 50), I'll look over the data and post a report. (Unfortunately, I can't 'share' the data due to the limitations of my account with the form-building website -- however, if you ask nicely, I can give you my account details, and you can analyse it till your heart's content. Alternatively, if there's a lot of demand for it, I will upload a spreadsheet of the data submitted.)

* Hopefully, this data will give us some clues as to how one's numbers 'really' affect one's chances of admission. This may be irrelevant to you now, having come to the end of the admissions process, but it will be very helpful to applicants in the future. (If the number of submissions is healthy this time around, I plan on running this poll yearly.)

Anyway, it'd be great if you could fill out the poll. To save you scrolling up, here's the link to it once more: http://www.tfaforms.com/146985

PS. The name of the poll was chosen as a contrast to the PGR. Don't read into it too much.

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Two caveats:

* This poll is not really continental-friendly. (Sorry!) Why? To save time in building the poll, I decided to base parts of it on the PGR, which has a clear anti-continental bias. If there's a big outcry over my decision to do this, I'd be glad to change it; all I need is for someone to tell me exactly which pro-continental schools to include, seeing as I am clueless in that area.

* The fact that this poll is coarse-grained means that it fails to do a few things. Firstly, it doesn't distinguish between applications to PhD and MA programs. Hence, please only submit the results of your PhD applications. Secondly, it does not acknowledge different program 'tracks,' as in the cases of Pitt HPS and Irvine LPS, etc, which may be something worthwhile including in the next edition. Do let me know what else is missing.
Groan. Just what we need. Another half-witted attempt to make sense of the admissions process by crunching numbers.

Re: The Philosophical Spartan Report

Anonymous

6 years ago

Re: The Philosophical Spartan Report

Anonymous

6 years ago

Does anyone plan to decline at Cornell?
Yes, I plan to decline in every which way at Cornell - morally, physically, intellectually, aesthetically.

Re: Declining Cornell?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Anyone else out there on the Rutgers waitlist? If yes, do you know how many of us there are? whether the list is ranked? whether they've gone to the list in the past?

Anyone declining Texas A&M's MA program?