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Philosophy 2010

This is for anyone applying to Philosophy graduate programs during the 2009-2010 academic year. Please share acceptances, rejections, wait-list notifications, and so on.

Best of luck to everyone applying!
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Hello everyone,

I've never posted in this forum, but I've been applying to highly-ranked Ph.D programs this year.(I would prefer not to post identifying information.)

I have the following general question: Does anyone have any idea approximately how many prospective Ph.D students there are (say, in the states)in a given year? I'm sure it fluctuates, but does anyone have even a ballpark estimate? Individual programs give information about the number of applicants, but this is only moderately useful because most applicants apply to quite a few programs.

I'm open to entertaining creative methods of guess-timation. This question has been on my mind throughout the whole process.

Hope you're all faring well in the app. process.
I guess I should clarify that I'm interested only in the number of philosophy Ph.D applicants.

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January 4 2010, 01:54:58 UTC 7 years ago

If we had access to the info for each school with a PhD program, we could add up the numbers of apps each school receives and divide the sum by some number that represents how many apps. the average student submits (10?)to get a reasonable estimate.

No idea how to get that initial sum, though. Many schools don't publish the number of apps they receive

Late LOR

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January 5 2010, 19:29:25 UTC 7 years ago

So, as some of you might know, Columbia's deadline was the 3rd and 1 of my recommenders hasn't submitted his letter there yet. He has told me, however, that he might get it done by tonight, since he has some more grading to finish up, and tonight is the latest he can submit grades for his students. Should I email either the graduate director or graduate admissions at Columbia to let them know that my last letter will be in soon?

Thanks.
It is my understanding that adcoms fully expect some LORs to arrive somewhat late and don't penalize the applicant for it. My source for this is the advice of several professors, including the former director of grad admissions at a "top 20" school.

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Does anyone who here who has applied/is applying to Rice recall how one's transcripts are to be submitted? Are they to be uploaded online, or to be be sent to the department? Rice is another department whose reqs. for admission aren't clear on their website. In addition, the online application won't let me look at the individual sections of my file, which has already been submitted, and since I can't remember whether I intended to send out my transcript later, since they have such a late deadline, or if I've already uploaded an unofficial copy, I'm not really sure how to find out the answer to my question. I've already called the dept., but no one's picking up.

Thanks.
I had the exact same problem! I called and no one answered or called back. I emailed someone and he said to send it here (the same place to send one's writing sample):

Ph.D. Admissions Committee
Rice University
Philosophy Department MS 14
PO Box 1892
Houston, TX 77251-1892
U.S.A.
Received e-mail for admissions today that my app was complete etc. The review process will begin "shortly" and decisions made by March 15th....
Hi,

I have no GPA since I'm French. Both system cannot be compared, definitely. A perfect GPA would make nearly no sense in France.

Two letters from French professors, well-known in France, far less in the US, but who know me well.
One letter from a US professor in a top-15 program.
GRE: V 660, Q 720, AW 4.5

WS: ethics, not proud of it (response paper rather than personal thesis, lacks a bit of structure, a few typos)

AOS: ethics, applied ethics

NYU
Rutgers
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
CUNY

I'm realistic about my chances of admissions. They are close to zero.
Addendum:

- I've got an MA in philosophy in France, and a long way in philosophy behind me already.

- I should have applied to Oxford too. I kind of missed the deadline since my recommenders won't have time to submit their letters by January 8.

- Also considering Michigan, Pittsburgh, Cornell. Cons: it's already been so expensive. Adding score reports for the GRE (and TOEFL!) plus application fees is maybe too much by now. Pros: it gives me time to revise my sample.

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From a respected public school in the northeast:

GPA: Overall - 3.75 Phil- 3.95 (double major Poli Sci - 3.9)

680 V 760 Q 5.5 AW

Plus minority bonus points

Rutgers
Columbia
Pitt
Mich
Brown
Minnesota
SIU-Carbondale
Emory
Vanderbilt
Oregon
Tufts (MA)


AOS: Moral and political philosophy/ American Pragmatism/ critical theory (depending on the schools, I've been more or less forward about these interests in my PS)...
That's a crazy list. Are you sure you know what you are doing?
Anyone have an approximate date for when decisions start rolling out? Does it happen in February or mostly in March and early April?
It is possible to start seeing acceptances now, especially if you applied to any schools with rolling admissions. However,the last week of January is when it seems to officially start (see the Grade Cafe postings for the last few years). February should be very active and all hell will probably break loose in March.

For reference

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I had posted this question before in response to my "crazy" list a couple of posts up (I am anon from "Been here for a while..."), but I thought it deserved its own thread... here's my previous response post, with the question posed at the end of it:

"You're both right. I understand that I have to be flexible. I'm an undergrad... my interests may change. Ultimately, my choice may be based on possible job prospects in 6 years rather than the opportunity to study my particular interests now...

By the way... how does everyone else feel about that sort of tension in their school choices? My interests have changed, and I know many schools (especially "top-ranked" ones) are not too friendly to them...How do people feel about maybe sacrificing prestige for an environment friendly to your interests or vice versa in school choices??"

This is an issue that has been weighing heavily on my mind, so any conversation/advice/wisdom anyone can share would be greatly appreciated... best wishes all

(Btw, I understand that this question my be more directed at students with interests outside of M&E or phil of mind/sci... but all comments are welcome)
If I wanted to do something that didn't interest me in exchange for more job security, I'd probably be waiting to hear back from law school applications right now.

Let's say you really care about X, but you write your thesis on Y. Not only did you spend all your thesis years on Y, Y is now your specialty, and it will be what you are qualified to publish on for at least the next several years.

Couple other issues:

-The school might realize you most want to study X, and not admit you anyways.
-You will be less motivated to work (because it's not your interest). Potentially, your work will be lower quality or you will drop out.

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I just got an email that my paper is accepted by the International Kant Congress.I've applied to programs strong in Kant and German Idealism, like Chicago, Standford. But my GRE and GPA is mediocre, and my referees are not very well known, but they know me well. The accepted paper is one part of my writing sample, so supposedly my writing sample is quite good. How do you my chance to get an admission?
You don't provide nearly enough information for other members to give you informed feedback on your question (i.e. "will I get into [insert glamorous program X]?"). From the look of the website, the conference has some really good Kant scholars giving talks. So it's a legit conference. But what sort of paper will you be giving? Will it be a major presentation billed alongside profs and responded to by them? Or will it be one of the spots reserved for grad students? And how are we to know how competitive such spots are?

In general, it's probably less competitive to get such a position at a European conference. You're competing against other Europeans and not the larger community for such scholarship found in the US. Not to say there's nothing over there, but just that it's harder for the larger community to judge whether that counts as a "big deal" or not.

I would suspect that the acceptance of your paper is probably a mildly good sign in favor of your application. But I would hold your breath for Stanford and Chicago-- especially given the fact that your letters are from unknowns.
Who's got two thumbs up and is done with apps? This gal.




...let the waiting (and obsessive email checking) begin.
I got done pretty much around late December (thanks to my very scrupulously businesslike adviser). Since then I've been anxiously keeping watch of the fate of my mailed supplementary materials and such, and I gotta tell you, with my applying to 15 schools in all, this has been an extremely arduous task. Some schools (like Yale-surprisingly) have been very quick to update their statuses, while others (like UVA and Rutgers) have been less quick, although my negative opinion regarding the latter might just be because my items were in fact lost. In those cases though, the respective admissions offices have advised me to just be patient, as they're backlogged from the northeast snowstorm and extended christmas/new year break.

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GRE: 1400+ (I don't want to reveal exact numbers now)
U GPA: approx. 3.5
G GPA (philosophy): 4.0

Main Interests: Epistemology, Metaethics, Hermeneutics

Applied:
Arizona
Boston U
Columbia
Michigan
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Texas
UCLA
UCSD
UIUC
UNC
UVa
UW-Madison
Yale

Best wishes to all!
I'm curious to know why you didn't apply to some "reaches" that excel in one or more of your interests (e.g., NYU, Rutgers, Harvard). Unless I'm missing something, your stats are good enough to get your sample read carefully almost everywhere.
Has anyone else noticed the dearth of female graduate students at Brown? I realize that the number of females in philosophy is low for everyone, but the numbers for Brown seem especially low.
I suspect no interesting discussion will be generated by this post.

It's probably a statistical anomaly. Even were it not, by what method could we ascertain whether or not Brown systematically discriminates against female applicants?

Don't bother posting shit that obviously will go nowhere.

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Greetings. I just recently, as in this past December, finished my MA at a fairly high ranked school. I am applying to PhD programs for next fall but in the mean time I will be an adjunct professor of philosophy at two local community colleges. While everyone has been posting their credentials (GRE, GPA, etc), no one has said if having prior teaching experience (specifically in philosophy) would be a boost to one's application. Anyone have any insight?
If we're talking top-ten schools, then it doesn't matter.

These schools care about producing students that can potentially get hired by other prestigious departments. Prestigious departments are focussed on research. Their metric for determining this type of potential is comprised of letters and your sample.

My evidence is from years of data generated by this board and from knowing people who've got in to top ten schools and people who haven't. Many people who do well also have nice extras-- sometimes teaching is among such factors. But both reason and evidence indicate that any particular aside from letters and sample is basically extraneous to the way they decide who's in and who's out (to borrow a phrase from Project Runway).

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Has anyone ever sent a revised version of her writing sample past the deadline?
I have, with good results (i.e., admission). I emailed the department secretary the updated version and asked if she could include it in my application file. I think most schools have not yet begun the application review process, so they won't mind replacing the writing sample with an updated version.

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Cornell

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January 10 2010, 20:21:51 UTC 7 years ago

Does anyone know by when Cornell's letters ABSOLUTELY must arrive? That is, is it okay, you think, for letters there to be a little late? Indiana's admissions assistant has informed that (apparently) they won't be accepting any late items, including letters.
So, I sent my fall term grade report to Columbia via priority mail the other day, and apparently an attempt at delivery was made yesterday. Problem was no one was there, and so according to their tracking service, a note was left informing Columbia to request redelivery on their website by filling out a form.

Question: Will Columbia actually go through this rigmarole to get my document? Another question: if Columbia doesn't request redelivery, will USPS just try to deliver the item again on its next trip out? I don't see why not, since they did try to deliver it on a weekend day, and so it's not like it's totally unexpected for the intended recipient not to be there. The thing is the tracking note on their website says that "if this item is unclaimed after 15 days then it will be returned to the sender." This leads me to think that they are just going to let my document sit in a corner of the post office!

:(
I should add that this is a PO Box address. Not sure how this affects the overall process, but thought this info might be helpful.

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January 11 2010, 06:09:56 UTC 7 years ago

"daddy was a laywer". calling someone, I guess you assume to be a female, a "cuntrag"? Guess the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, does it? Maybe you should include your favorite obscenities in personal statement.

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January 11 2010, 16:42:56 UTC 7 years ago

No such assumption was made.

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January 11 2010, 20:43:08 UTC 7 years ago

yeah a rag could be referring to a male or a female to be honest
I wanna stay relatively anonymous, but here are my creds:
Just finished up at one of the "Leiteriffic" MA programs (it also had an inter-institutional exchange with a mid-ranked PhD program, and I was able to take 9 hours at said institution).
Grad GPA: 3.89 Undergrad GPA: 3.5 (at a not-so impressive state university)
GRE: too shitty to mention (slightly lower than the lowest score on this message board so far).
Writing Sample: Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Heidegger, skepticism (pretty confident about this one).
LoRs (all enthusiastic, I assume): one from a well-known, well-respected Heideggerian from mid-ranked PhD program mentioned above, one from the MA program who is well-known and well-respected in Ancient (esp. Aristotle, Plato) and Aesthetics (and to a lesser extent Feminist Theory), the third recommendation comes from a Nietzsche/19th-century moral theorist who has also published extensively on Kant and who studied at UT under Leiter, Higgins, Solomon, etc. but who is not officially part of the MA program I just left. The MA program which I attended was almost dogmatically analytic, and so this third recommender is kinda stuck in the Honors College (even though he is of the Leiter camp in Continental studies).
I finished the MA last Spring, and am spending the year teaching several different courses at a local community college. I was hoping that this would be a point in my favor, but previous threads raise doubt on this issue.
My main interests are Nietzsche, Heidegger, phenomenology, French feminism, aesthetics, phil. of language, critical theory, Wittgenstein, Eastern, and Ancient (esp. Plato and pre-Socratics).
I just finished applying to twelve programs:
(1) Texas A&M
(2) Northwestern
(3) Boston College
(4) Emory
(5) Penn State
(6) Fordham
(7) Stony Brook
(8) Vanderbilt
(9) Boston U
(10) Univ. of Oregon
(11) Univ. of New Mexico
(12) Univ. of Kentucky

Some of these aren't even in the rankings, which should probably be no suprise as most are known as "continental programs". But I'm still worried that my low GRE's will hurt me bad. Also, one of my recommendations is coming from a former student of Leiter. Although not particularly well-known in "continental-cricles", his association with Leiter (if they are aware of it) may turn these continental programs off. It may also be off-putting that I'm coming from a department known to be dogmatically analytic, though I do make it clear in my SoP that I was able to continue developing my continental interests through the Honors College, Anthropology dept, and PhD program that I've already mentioned above (this is where the well-known Heideggerian comes in). I have a friend who applied last year with pretty much identical stats as me (even same three letters) and only got wait-listed on one (out of seven) programs he applied to (he evetually got in, but shit, this also worries me).
Well, good luck to everyone. I guess we just sit and wait till mid-February...
You might wish to look also at Warwick's MPhil-PhD (2+2) program. Given your interests, you could do a lot worse than writing under, among others at Warwick, Houlgate, Ansell-Pearson, Beistegui, and Cassam. In the US, don't overlook Purdue and Villanova. And in Canada, Guelph is an interesting up and coming program that has, among others, John Russon and Jay Lampert. Also, if you profoundly underperformed on the GREs, Warwick and Guelph do not ask for them. Good luck!

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Has anyone else applied to U of O? My app status page says that I'm still missing a "Graduate Teaching Fellow Application Form". Where the hell do I find this? I don't see any mention of it on the Philosophy site or the Grad School Admissions site. I'll call them up tomorrow, but perhaps someone else knows what the deal is with this.
I seem to remember filling out somenthing like this during the online app process, but I've been filling so much stuff out that it all gets blurry.
Also, Boston U and Vanderbilt both sent emails after submission telling me to send copies of LoRs to the appropriate department, but I've already had these submitted electronically. This is probably a redundancy left-over from an automated message that was penned before electronic submissions were available. Surely they don't expect me to go back and get extra copies of these letters (what would be the point of submitting them electronically in the first place?).
Behold the awesome power of my google-fu:

http://gradschool.uoregon.edu/?page=gtfForms

"Graduate Teaching Fellow Application Form" is there. However, it seems to be for current students. Additionally,

http://www.uoregon.edu/~uophil/files/ApplicationMaterialsChecklist.pdf

is a checklist for you that does not, in fact, list the form in question. Sounds confusing enough to warrant a phone call.

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7 years ago

FYI:

"The real, absolute cut off will be with the US mail on Tuesday, so anything that comes before then, electronically or otherwise, will be OK."

This coming today from Linda Harl, the secretary of the department. I.e., 1-19 is when any and all parts of the application must be submitted in order for it to receive consideration by the admissions committee members.
I like Indiana, they respond fast.
Only a couple UK acceptances up until now, first American acceptance just got posted on Grad Cafe.

http://www.thegradcafe.com/survey/index.php?q=phil*
Why so early? Isn't UNL's deadline JAN 31?

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Can anyone confirm my impression that a high verbal score (730) can go some way toward making up for a poor quantitative score (540)? Generally speaking, the departments care significantly more about the V than they do the Q, right?
I think, in general, the verbal is taken most seriously. However, the following has stuck with me after I read in on Leiter's blog. It was posted by Charles Morris and can be found here: http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/phd_admissions__1.html

"We don't weigh GRE scores very heavily (and I think I speak for all members of our admission committee this and last year). Why? In my experience high scores don't predict much about philosophical ability, and I know many able graduate students who had low scores (in the 60 percentiles). The one exception is that applicants with low quantitative scores may very well have problems with the logic requirement."

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Just out of curiosity, what is the most advanced math course that you have taken at your college, and do you think that that course contributed, whether positively or negatively, to your QR score?

The most advanced course that I've taken in college is a liberal arts substitute for precalculus with a special focus on introductory cryptology. The course dealt with some elementary linear algebra, but it mostly required only basic algebra skills. The most advanced non-specialized mathematics course that I've taken is Intermediate Algebra. My grades for these 2 classes were B+ and A, respectively.

My QR score on the GRE was a 710.

I also received A's in the two logic courses I've taken.
I forgot to add that I do think that intermediate algebra helped contribute to my relatively good score. I do think, however, that if I had taken precalculus instead of the liberal arts substitute, I would likely have scored even higher.